Wow. Now I'm receiving threats.. This is waaaay too fun to quit. Apparently it's a no no to post your comments on someone else's thread

Who threatened you,and why?Which post/what thread?Telling only part of the story is what caused this thread to turn on you in the first place.

I didn't know it turned on me. It's just different opinions. Read the very first one. I asked a simple question. The dealer introduced himself. I wasn't even going to talk about the sinking issue. Look back a few posts and you'll see everything that happened leading up to the sinking. As far as telling part of the story it came out slowly as the thread went on. It's really too long. I'd have to write a book. There's more issues then I even put on here now. Maybe they'll be a new thread

P.S. My wife and I have a salvaged boat. It sank on us due to faulty repairs " in my opinion ". All we wanted was compensation for what we feel is right.

sorry to hear about your boat, thats a shame if it went down because of ice in the water lines. Was winterizing not offered by the servicing dealership? You said no alarms and temp gauges looked fine, what were the engine temps at? Wierd that while ruinning you noticed a burning smell and thought it was the heater unit, wouldn't that be a concern of yours? If i was on a boat / car / in a house and smelled something burning i would stop what i was doing immediately and find out what is wrong! Hopefully it all works out and you get back to boating.

I will say you had better truly trust who is working on your boat because there are some who really dont know what they are doing and think they do. I drive out of my way to have my work done and have never had a problem. The one time I went local to have a water pump replaced, they had loosened some hose clamps back by the exhaust for some odd reason and didnt tighten back up and then we were on the river and the bildge pump wouldnt stop running, so we cut our day short drive out of our way to our trusted dealer to have it fixed. Even though I should have took it back to the other and had them make it right, I dont give people the chance to screw me twice. I will pay the ones I trust to do it right.

And it is odd to me that this is very similar to parts of your story, just I caught ours before real trouble hit and we keep on trailer to.

Thanks. I did stop and shut completely down. I sat there for quite a while and it cleared out fast. I was within sight distance of my slip so I idled to it. I was almost the only boat on the lake and the water was 42 degrees. You can only last 10 minutes in that water. And the gauges showed ok..No buzzers. IDK either...

Additionally , I doubt the issue was ice in the line. Winterizing was offered but I declined due to 70+ weather. It stormed overnight and was 28 at delivery..crazy.. The passages were clogged with old rubber pieces but the impeller that was in there was still intact..( AS I'm told by new dealer ) The rubber must have been left in there.

Per the customer was running boat at 190 degrees when smoke and a burning rubber smell was coming out of engine compartment and claimed he thought it was his heater unit. (This was reported by owner to my service manager). Not sure what really happened?

Once boat was taken to Kelly's Port we suggested he pickle the motors and generator right away and then we were later told the boat was basically fixed before the adjuster came to look at it.

If we did something wrong, we would fess up to it but there are so many un-answered questions like why there was a two week period we heard nothing but he says the problem started when he left our driver at dock. I think you can see based on all these post if there was smoke coming out of engine compartment when he pulled away from dock when we delivered he would have let us know right away instead we here about it more than two weeks later and now there is a impeller in boat that is like new and remnants of a basically new impeller in the housing with it. In most cases if you run a boat so hot that the bellows melt and the headers turn brown it has been going on sometime and the impeller inside would have been toast again. Sorry we offered to winterize and you declined. It's not easy being a dealer but we do the best we can.

Chad, I applaud your efforts to beat me up on this thread and see that you seem to live here, your phone, text and Facebook. Maybe after it is fixed you will apply some common sense to use of your boat and this would most likely not happen again.

I really think the big problem here is Chad was told after his boat sunk that it was previously totaled or salvaged back in 2004 and we cannot confirm that. We have spoke to customer who traded it in and he knows nothing regarding this either. We have worked with Chad daily to help answer his questions. If there is good news, it did not submerge 100% and it was freshwater, not salt.

Hope you all have a great Easter and that Chad and I can sort out in future.

Regards,

Scott Shogren
www.teamshogren.com

Legally, at least in NJ, if a boat sank it needs to be recorded as such. Would the lemon law come into effect?

With that being said, I know a few boats that have sunk and they're better boats today than then were brand new. Still, it it really sank it should have been disclosed in my opinion unless the dealer didn't know themselves.

Good point, the boat sank after we sold it and when Chad ran it on rocks last fall it did NOT sink and there was no structural damage done to it. The pictures posted by us earlier were after we went thru boat and added bottom paint so he could leave in water at his slip.

We have no reason at this time to believe this boat ever sunk previously and we were informed this am of a gov't site we can contact Monday to get more information which we plan to do to help.

Have a Great Easter.

Scott Shogren

It's funny how threads like this go full circle.