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ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 10:52 AM

Fastest Single In Toms River, NJ Area?
 
Whats up OSO, I picked up a clean 27' Fountain single, no step bottom, in the fall of last year. I am currently having a fresh custom 510ci N.A. motor being built at Bandit Performance Marine (Formerly Kurt's Marine) on Mantoloking Rd. in Brick, NJ. I cant say enough times how helpful, friendly and informative they have been. Not sure of the H.P. until im on the dyno but im crossing my fingers for 90MPH. Looking for a quick race just for fun or a small wager. I will accept fair twin engine competition also. Im usually blasting around the bay in between the Seaside and Mantoloking bridges. Thanks guys, The Instagator.

Gladhe8er 04-27-2011 10:55 AM

Hey, where is Triple Digits and his Stingray?:lolhit:

pacalim1965@yaho 04-27-2011 11:05 AM

What are you going to run for an out drive when you destroy your bravo 1 with the new hp ?

rainmn 04-27-2011 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 3388439)
Hey, where is Triple Digits and his Stingray?:lolhit:

That was the first thing I thought when I read the thread title. :)

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 11:19 AM

LOL, im running a bravo x, new style with finned top cap, with 1 inch shorty imco lower, so we'll see how long that lasts. i didnt want to give up too much info on my setup, gotta leave a little for the imagination!

Too Stroked 04-27-2011 12:50 PM

Personally, I think you're going to find that the 27' Fountain doesn't like a ton of power. (And I work for a Fountain dealer.) The 29' is actually a much faster hull with the same power. Add to that the fact that you have the older non-stepped version and you're starting in something of a hole. The 27' is a real handfull with big power.

As for what kind of power you're going to need to hit mid-90's with that hull, you're certainly talking more than enough power to blow your Bravo right off the transom as others have said.

Finally, there are some pretty quick hulls out there - although maybe not right in your area. For instance, I know one of our members (Laster) has a Whipple Charged 502 in a 24' Progression that's running a legitimate 95 MPH.

So yes, you'll probably be fast, but not the fastest and you're going to have your hands full. Be careful.

Tom A. 04-27-2011 01:00 PM

I know a certain 30' Superboat running an 800hp Ron Potter that lives around the corner from you.....
Wish I still had my 29' Kryptonite!

Joking aside, please be careful, that hull is a handful above 85mph.

FIXX 04-27-2011 01:18 PM

Fixx
 
Boy where is might mouse when you need him,,i would double the wager if that boat was still in the area..:drink:

pacalim1965@yaho 04-27-2011 01:45 PM

I have a 27 Baja Boss with 509 m3 procharger, very simlar to your fountain. over 85 mph and the stearn wants to dance around. I had to put Imco dual steering on the boat just to tame it down. wear your lanyard and don't *uck up because at 90+ things happen fast. My 29 Fountain Fever is very well mannered, with the stepped hull its smoother and way better handleing. Good Luck

BlackJack58 04-27-2011 01:52 PM

Triple Digits is the first thing that popped into my mind, too. If you have not found him...maybe he will find you.

If he's still around. Any sightings?

[one of the funniest threads ever]

rainmn 04-27-2011 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by BlackJack58 (Post 3388599)
Triple Digits is the first thing that popped into my mind, too. If you have not found him...maybe he will find you.

If he's still around. Any sightings?

[one of the funniest threads ever]

I saw the boat being trailered a while back...can't remember if it was last summer or the summer before. My wife wondered what I thought was so funny. :grinser010:

Ted G 04-27-2011 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 3388557)
I know a certain 30' Superboat running an 800hp Ron Potter that lives around the corner from you.....
Wish I still had my 29' Kryptonite!

Joking aside, please be careful, that hull is a handful above 85mph.


Unfortunately the Potter motor is in FL and the boat is sold per Gary on the SB forum. I'm thinking it would have given the Fountain a goal:lolhit::lolhit:

C_Spray 04-27-2011 02:13 PM

I'm around, and I'll be in Toms River for the NJPPC events... :coolcowboy:

There's a serious group of single-engine Kryptonites/Jokers/others that hang at the Chesapeake Inn if you want to trailer over to the big water.

T2x 04-27-2011 02:19 PM

Last I heard there's a 21 Shadow down there that belongs to Smitty with a big V8 running over 110........

You've got a long way to go to catch that one......

However....your desire to "side bet" race with a boat you haven't even sea trialed sounds like a prescription for disaster. Speed on the water can be your greatest thrill or your worst nightmare. Do you have high speed experience, and by that I mean hundreds of hours at speed? If not...you've got a long way to go in more ways than one. I suggest you buy Lifeline jackets for you and all your passengers....and, if you must "race" do so in an organized event only, with a helmet on your head under supervised conditions. There's a reason that safety divers fly in helicopters at all races......

Good luck....

T2x

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 02:38 PM

thanks guys for all your concerns. Im not looking to set any speed records this summer just have a little fun from time to time. I will probably cruise in the 40-60 mph range most of the time but i like to know i have extra throttle if needed. Im also having a full hydraulic dual ram mayfair system installed along with the new motor (b/c im not THAT stupid!). I know the 29 with a single step is a better hull and faster with the same power but what i have is what i can afford and i am greatful for it. Its been a long winter and im just trying to start some "ball busting" early in the season.

Panther 04-27-2011 02:40 PM

Hate to burst your bubble but I think you're going to find there are many single engine boats in that area that will be faster than yours.

Racing down Barnegat Bay, that's one thing I "wont" miss about living in NJ.

Sport 280 04-27-2011 02:44 PM

Last I knew, triple d was hanging out in the bay, waiting to outrun some more of them 300k offshore boys in 4-6 foot waves:)

Thunderstruck27 04-27-2011 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by ita1iansta11ion1 (Post 3388654)
thanks guys for all your concerns. Im not looking to set any speed records this summer just have a little fun from time to time. I will probably cruise in the 40-60 mph range most of the time but i like to know i have extra throttle if needed. Im also having a full hydraulic dual ram mayfair system installed along with the new motor (b/c im not THAT stupid!). I know the 29 with a single step is a better hull and faster with the same power but what i have is what i can afford and i am greatful for it. Its been a long winter and im just trying to start some "ball busting" early in the season.

Hey Stallion...I'm with ya. It's been a long winter and I'm ready for "LAKE-TIME" myself. Have fun!:evilb::drink::drink::drink:

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Panther;3388655]Hate to burst your bubble but I think you're going to find there are many single engine boats in that area that will be faster than yours.


There is no bubble to burst b/c i know there are faster singles out there. I never claimed to be the fastest single (geez i dont even have my engine in yet). Just putting feelers out there for what people have in the area. And im not gonna race a boat that i know goes 110, im just looking for a little friendly FAIR competition.

FIXX 04-27-2011 03:07 PM

Fixx
 
[QUOTE=ita1iansta11ion1;3388663]

Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3388655)
Hate to burst your bubble but I think you're going to find there are many single engine boats in that area that will be faster than yours.


There is no bubble to burst b/c i know there are faster singles out there. I never claimed to be the fastest single (geez i dont even have my engine in yet). Just putting feelers out there for what people have in the area. And im not gonna race a boat that i know goes 110, im just looking for a little friendly FAIR competition.

mighty mouse :drink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKhIXJ0fME

PARADISE ISLAND 04-27-2011 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=ita1iansta11ion1;3388663]

Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3388655)
Hate to burst your bubble but I think you're going to find there are many single engine boats in that area that will be faster than yours.


There is no bubble to burst b/c i know there are faster singles out there. I never claimed to be the fastest single (geez i dont even have my engine in yet). Just putting feelers out there for what people have in the area. And im not gonna race a boat that i know goes 110, im just looking for a little friendly FAIR competition.

Be safe keep your tabs down a bit use as much hull as possible small boats can get crazy with big power!:party-smiley-004:

Eliminator28 04-27-2011 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by ita1iansta11ion1 (Post 3388436)
Whats up OSO, I picked up a clean 27' Fountain single, no step bottom, in the fall of last year. I am currently having a fresh custom 510ci N.A.[/COLOR] motor being built at Bandit Performance Marine (Formerly Kurt's Marine) on Mantoloking Rd. in Brick, NJ. I cant say enough times how helpful, friendly and informative they have been. Not sure of the H.P. until im on the dyno but im crossing my fingers for 90MPH. Im thinking i may have one of the faster singles in the area. Looking for a quick race just for fun or a small wager. I will accept fair twin engine competition also. Im usually hanging out at F-Cove, or blasting around the bay in between the Seaside and Mantoloking bridges. Thanks guys, The Instagator.

I'm thinking you might be a tad optimistic :D

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 03:35 PM

y? dont think it will go 90? it was a 75 mph boat with a little under 500hp. another 200hp wont get it there?

Eliminator28 04-27-2011 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by ita1iansta11ion1 (Post 3388711)
y? dont think it will go 90? it was a 75 mph boat with a little under 500hp. another 200hp wont get it there?

I'm questioning the HP

700hp is a lot to get out of a N/A 510. Let's hear more about your motor :drink:

Too Stroked 04-27-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by ita1iansta11ion1 (Post 3388711)
y? dont think it will go 90? it was a 75 mph boat with a little under 500hp. another 200hp wont get it there?

The question is not if it will go that fast, but whether how fast it will go safely. Remember, a 27' Fountain is essentially a 25' boat. (The beak doesn't gain you running surface.) I've driven enough 27' Fountains (and other boats) to know what a handfull they can be. One of our members from my area was killed last year when his 29' Kryptonite went out of control during testing. That's one of the reasons those of us with lots of seat time are cautioning you here. It doesn't matter if you run 120 MPH - for 5 seconds before you loose control and crash.

Superbabi 04-27-2011 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3388615)
Unfortunately the Potter motor is in FL and the boat is sold per Gary on the SB forum. I'm thinking it would have given the Fountain a goal:lolhit::lolhit:

Ted is correct, the Potter motor is as Ron's Shop ( for sale ) also
correct the SuperboatY2K is going south to her new home.
And last, the Y2K with the Potter 800 was fast !!!!:grinser010:

Baja555 04-27-2011 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3388655)
Hate to burst your bubble but I think you're going to find there are many single engine boats in that area that will be faster than yours.

Racing down Barnegat Bay, that's one thing I "wont" miss about living in NJ.

+ 1000.... ..prepare to be beat alot by the fast boats...

Baja555 04-27-2011 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by ita1iansta11ion1 (Post 3388711)
y? dont think it will go 90? it was a 75 mph boat with a little under 500hp. another 200hp wont get it there?

Nooooooooooooooooo wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 04:14 PM

im trying to describe the engine while still being vague lol (it is an open form, ya know?), 10:1 comp, alum heads, custom cam, custom pistons, 4500 carb.

Baja555 04-27-2011 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Too Stroked (Post 3388735)
The question is not if it will go that fast, but whether how fast it will go safely. Remember, a 27' Fountain is essentially a 25' boat. (The beak doesn't gain you running surface.) I've driven enough 27' Fountains (and other boats) to know what a handfull they can be. One of our members from my area was killed last year when his 29' Kryptonite went out of control during testing. That's one of the reasons those of us with lots of seat time are cautioning you here. It doesn't matter if you run 120 MPH - for 5 seconds before you loose control and crash.

A 25 ft boat? the 27 fountain has 23 ft of running surface.

Baja555 04-27-2011 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by ita1iansta11ion1 (Post 3388711)
y? dont think it will go 90? it was a 75 mph boat with a little under 500hp. another 200hp wont get it there?

75 mph with a 500.. wow, thats majical hp..my buddy's 27 ran 61 with 425..

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3388756)
75 mph with a 500.. wow, thats majical hp..my buddy's 27 ran 61 with 425..

i've seen the gps with my own eyes, although i cannot prove the hp. my engine builder said that was approximate hp of my old motor. stock 502 block, alum heads, 4150 carb. although your friends boat should definitely be running faster than that.

Baja555 04-27-2011 04:26 PM

again,,, wow... thats some magical speed...

Baja555 04-27-2011 04:28 PM

was that 75 mph on the water or on the trailer being towed ?

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3388768)
was that 75 mph on the water or on the trailer being towed ?

LOL, it was on the water, i usually vary between 55-60 towing to avoid wasting gas.

Mastercraft240 04-27-2011 04:35 PM

The boat will not be a "runner" by any means. Just have fun with the boat. Sounds like you'll be doing that cruising around the 60 mark. Like T2X said, leave the racing for sanctioned events. Cruising with people is much more fun than seeing who the bigger grand standder is.

CLA 04-27-2011 04:36 PM

IMO I would sell that 27 beak and get a nice 25,26, or 27 Eliminator Daytona. You will go way faster with the same HP and the boat will be stable. Those 27's are scary at speed.

ita1iansta11ion1 04-27-2011 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by CLA (Post 3388779)
IMO I would sell that 27 beak and get a nice 25,26, or 27 Eliminator Daytona. You will go way faster with the same HP and the boat will be stable. Those 27's are scary at speed.

i am not a racer. i cruise, have a good time with my friends and i go for a blast every now and then. the fountain was what i could afford and personally i like the looks of my boat. it is white with a red and black stripe (my favorite color combo), has white red and black seats and also has grey suede in the cabin (also my favorite color). My windscreen is painted white to match the boat and i have fountain written across the front of it, i also have the clear lip on the top of it. personally if i ordered this boat brand new from the factory i wouldnt have changed a thing. thank you but i am very happy with my purchase.

PARADISE ISLAND 04-27-2011 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3388756)
75 mph with a 500.. wow, thats majical hp..my buddy's 27 ran 61 with 425..

Was he pulling a dingy?:lolhit:I think a 27' with 500HP should break 70mph easy:cool:In perfect conditions:drink:

Fast Shafts 04-27-2011 04:51 PM

I also had an engine built by Bandit Performance for my class 6 raceboat "Lock'd Up". I'm VERY PLEASED with Bandit! My engine came in with the Horsepower I was promised, on time, and more importantly on budget!!
I know Drew, Danny, Grant and Jeremy put alot of effort into satisfying their customers. I HIGHLY recommend them!!
Ita1, best of luck with your boat and new power!
Bob G.


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