Originally Posted by Uncle Dave

Thanks!. I wanted a fast all rounder and focused on amenities and situational awareness first and speed second.

I think you zeroed in on the ones I like minus maybe the pantera whose 28 is pretty neat and big water capable.

Yes the ilmor 710 is 700HP 10 cylinder fuel injected, no blower, and all aluminum so its very light. Idles like a kitten, screams like a 2 stroke banshee with a howl between a BBc and a lamborghini.

I like Velocities. Im not sure the velocity is a 24 degree V like the very fast Howard Bullett which isn't either- but velocities are always fast for their length- always. I also do not know if velocity vac bags their product.

Only a few of these hulls have been raced and proven in an apple to apples environment. Joker has the only race record better than the 2750 (although I don't know if they swept OSS 100% in any year like the 2750 did twice) and makes a fast light hull, but Im not sure they have the gelcoat quality and interior detail amenities the Lavey has. I can't really find lots of detail interior picts of the joker, but would be curious to see what actually molded vs whats inserted after as part of an interior.

The east coast boats typically have bolt on swim steps & windshields and west coast boats typically have them molded in.

East coast boats also typically apply paint externally to the hull and West Coast boats typically spray gelcoat in the mold process.

Ive never been interested in Bajas simply because for the same or a bit more money one can have a truly custom boat made they way they want it vs picked out off a showroom. All the ones I have been in had things that drive me nuts but I wouldn't call any of them "bad" just compromised by assembly line production limitations.

I like AT's. The 25 AT is a huge 25. People love their AT's but the 25 hasn't been made for some time now. A guy named spillman had a nice one for sale.

I run in zero vis condition you see above and although this site says "offshore" very few here leave sight of land or can navigate effectively at night in major commercial traffic areas like I do all the time.

Take your time and look at ALL the details in this class. There are lots of little differences in all of these boats that contribute or detract to living life with them.




Uncle Dave

Originally Posted by Scalded Dawg

That is not the case on my boat. The Imco neutral box figured in the degree of my transom on my application for some reason. I had a 71/2" prop shaft height stock, now with a 2" shorty and box I am at 51/4"...... The 25 your speaking of must be "Wilcard" and what a sweet 25 that is..... Wish I had Mercurys help on mine and someone that could really dial it in! Good luck with your testing and keep us in the loop on your results.....

Originally Posted by AIR TIME

so you have a shortie Great, that helps mine had just the 2'' shortie and it handled so much better in rough ocean water. yes wildcard he had the 3'' raised box. all the guys around me that have there propshafts shorter have picked up more speed and handling. Boxer the sutphin 31 has a 1200hp motor going in it and he bought back his old 26 footer which ran in p4 back inthe day and when propped right was at 98 with 800 to 850 hp. thats going to be fin ished soon. on the boxes when you go out 12'' your prop thinks its in 1'' deeper water. thats why the 3'' raised box is great you really pick up 2'' water to prop. so when wildcard did it he ended up with another 2'' shortie but it was just a little to high so he added a 1'' spacer with a total of4''raised drive but the boat thinks it 3''. I am starting high with my konrad 3'' shaft height because I can go down but not up. theres some singles running 2'' propshaft height but those are more of the step bottom boats. if you keep your boat and want more speed you could have someone sharpen your transom and chines like the sutphens have a very sharp edge on both which helps with speed. well I'll post on the saber as soon as we go out its been a 2yr project. right now headers are hitting power stairing and alt brackets. big azz headers starting to think too big.

Originally Posted by Uncle Dave

Heres is Quents beautiful 100+MPH 2750 Mid Cabin Open Bow.

I copied Quents paint style he on his 24 bowrider with a 710 in it.

1000HP Dustin whipple BBC on 93 octane.
950 on 91
SCX upper Sc lower.

I wish I had my hatch pad made like this with the cushion surrounding the vent as pad is much easier on the elbows.

I also like how Kevlar looks in the mold.

Thought it was worth throwing out there.


Uncle Dave

Originally Posted by Uncle Dave

Good luck on your quest for 100 Art. Should you make it out here Id love to go for a ride.

I dont know Sabre, but Balsa and vinlyester when packaged correctly make for one stout hull that also lasts a loong time.

Ocean Navigation with no visibility and just a compass takes more balls than a chinese ping pong tournament. Ive done it, but wont recommend it thats for sure. Im not so worried about me, but its my family cargo and friends Im looking to keep safe and secure. Problem I have is that one of the busiest ports in the world is between me and my most common destinations so I take all the precautions money can buy.

Cant wait to see your new rig.





Uncle Dave

Originally Posted by kreed

Hahahaha, we always call a GPS the "Lie Dectector".

Originally Posted by Mange

I'll try to see 110+ with a 32 Activator w #6 drive and 1100hp...

No cabin, no cup holders, no big $$$ stereo or other useless crap like that.....

It's not a dead flat condition boat ........



Mange