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Old 11-17-2011, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nikonmiami
lexan is, as i recall, GE's trade name for their polycarbonate plastic...just like pepsi is a trade name for cola...
Yup I use macralon in my race cars, just another trade name

Either way I think the general publics acknowledgement of safety is a good thing

If it helps save someones life and you never know whos knowledge from work experience in another field may help contribute to the next great safety innovation

Open dialog is a good thing as long as its respectful

Just my opinion
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
I know! That quote about the "general internet public" was directly from the person who posted the question. He told me to "call Peter at Skater" because the "general internet public won't know"! lol
Guess Peter is occuopied with more important things... and This is a Warpaint/ Apache thread!
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:50 AM
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Hans should be mandatory whenever helmets are required.
I recently crashed my car at 182 mph-guardrail hit, thankfully the hans did its job no neck injuries. There was fire in the car also I had no problem getting out with the added hardware.
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Old 11-23-2011, 03:15 PM
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I've been reading this post since the crash.....their are some good points and their are a lot of NO KNOWLEGE opinions.

1. Our canopy is multi-laminated, this design would not work with a roll bar.....the roll bar would make the canopy to rigid (like glass). It was made to flex.

2. The canopy flexed during the high speed impact and then eventually broke....the point is, it did take the initial impact,
THAT IS WHAT SAVED OUR LIVES.
Most people have no idea of the amount of pressure water has during a 115mph stuff

3. Could safety be improved? THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.

4. Will we learn from this accident? We'd be idiots not to build a better mouse trap here.

5. I was in the boat....DANNY and I LIVED, without to much injury......The boat and canopy did their job, for this type of accident.

END OF STORY

MikeyFIN...thanks for the backup
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Originally Posted by Apache041
I've been reading this post since the crash.....their are some good points and their are a lot of NO KNOWLEGE opinions.

1. Our canopy is multi-laminated, this design would not work with a roll bar.....the roll bar would make the canopy to rigid (like glass). It was made to flex.

2. The canopy flexed during the high speed impact and then eventually broke....the point is, it did take the initial impact,
THAT IS WHAT SAVED OUR LIVES.
Most people have no idea of the amount of pressure water has during a 115mph stuff

3. Could safety be improved? THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.

4. Will we learn from this accident? We'd be idiots not to build a better mouse trap here.

5. I was in the boat....DANNY and I LIVED, without to much injury......The boat and canopy did their job, for this type of accident.

END OF STORY

MikeyFIN...thanks for the backup
I am glad you guys are okay. Have a great Thanksgiving
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:01 AM
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Took nikonmiami's pictures and made a gif of the accident, glad they are ok.

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Old 11-24-2011, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GLH
Took nikonmiami's pictures and made a gif of the accident, glad they are ok.

GL.....it's Thanksgiving. Couldn't just one frame be that boob shot you always post? Be a giver okay?
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Old 11-24-2011, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
GL.....it's Thanksgiving. Couldn't just one frame be that boob shot you always post? Be a giver okay?
Don't know what your talking about... Say goodbye to my friend leaving Norty however...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e87HIlOIYFA

This link was posted on another thread here, think more than likely this shows how the Warpaint canopy might have failed. I doubt the Warpaint canopy it is designed to flex this much which lead to it's failure when it is impacted as it was in the stuff...this shows that the Warpaint canopy needs to be re-enforced. I don't intend to upset anyone here, and I am happy and relieved that the crew Bob and Danny were not seriously hurt but that might have been all down to luck. We really need to get serious about our safety.
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Originally Posted by Apache041
I've been reading this post since the crash.....their are some good points and their are a lot of NO KNOWLEGE opinions.

1. Our canopy is multi-laminated, this design would not work with a roll bar.....the roll bar would make the canopy to rigid (like glass). It was made to flex.

2. The canopy flexed during the high speed impact and then eventually broke....the point is, it did take the initial impact,
THAT IS WHAT SAVED OUR LIVES.
Most people have no idea of the amount of pressure water has during a 115mph stuff

3. Could safety be improved? THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.

4. Will we learn from this accident? We'd be idiots not to build a better mouse trap here.

5. I was in the boat....DANNY and I LIVED, without to much injury......The boat and canopy did their job, for this type of accident.

END OF STORY

MikeyFIN...thanks for the backup


With the design of your canopy, would a roll cage which was designed to "limit" the flexability of the canopy be feasable? In otherwords, There would be an airgap, or slamm crush structure, between the canopy, and the cage. After initial deformation of the canopy, the cage would then strategically support the canopy to reduce further deformation.
As you said, there is always room for improvement in safety. Just as these boats are safer than they were ten years ago, they will continue to become safer in the future.


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