Like Tree0Likes

Warpaint Crash Pics

Reply
Old 11-15-2011, 05:59 AM
  #81
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Frankfort,ill
My Boats: 40 SKATER
Posts: 12,863
Default

WOW ! Awesome that Danny will be OK & great pics Nikon




ITS A SKATER NATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RunninHotRacing163.1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 07:41 AM
  #82
Registered
Trade Score: (5)
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
My Boats: 22 Donzi Classic 525 EFI
Posts: 4,639
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
Carl, the bodies were still warm when you started your rant, the event is over now... besides, my question revolves around the windshield integrity not the canopy construciton itself..

I stand by what I said AT THAT TIME
I think you are a hypocrite and "instigator" is very fitting under your user name. And why talk about it now since in your words "the general internet public won't know the answer". BTW, obviously the windshield is part of the canopy. sheeesh....

Last edited by thirdchildhood; 11-15-2011 at 07:47 AM.
thirdchildhood is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 08:32 AM
  #83
Registered
 
boatme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Spring Lake, Michigan
My Boats: Sold the Cig
Posts: 4,026
Default

Participant speaks

http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/lo...victim-speaks/
boatme is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 09:02 AM
  #84
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
nobody has addressed the fact that in all instances the plexi/lexan/whatever/ windscreens imploded on impact,,, the resulting incoming water pressure and volume THEN tore the canopy away from the supports

you don't see aircraft windshields doing this when they hit rain at 400-500 mph....

which begs the question, what thickness or mil rating is the clear glass/plastic/lexan/whatever?
looking at the pic i think its a little more than rain.
But yes, it should definitely be in one piece after that "little" incident.
Fredrik Z is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 09:24 AM
  #85
instigator
Platinum Member
 
BUIZILLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Miami, Fla
My Boats: 1980 Donzi Criterion 22
Posts: 1,420
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredrik Z View Post
looking at the pic i think its a little more than rain.
But yes, it should definitely be in one piece after that "little" incident.
I spent several years as an aircraft mechanic at MIA, and worked flightline damage repairs daily, and 3 or 4 direct runway crashes, I never saw a windscreen that *tore* away like these did, we did have heavy hail and bird damage, but not a *tear* situation...

I have seen bird's enter helicopter cockpits at low velocity though...

I guess my basic simple question is > does the current offshore sanction bodies have a windscreen spec for thickness/composition/material for open or enclosed cockpits?
BUIZILLA is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 09:42 AM
  #86
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
I guess my basic simple question is > does the current offshore sanction bodies have a windscreen spec for thickness/composition/material for open or enclosed cockpits?
I know UIM does. (9.5mm for a side by side canopy.) But key west wsnt a APBA-UIM race?
Fredrik Z is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 09:42 AM
  #87
Registered
Trade Score: (5)
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
My Boats: 22 Donzi Classic 525 EFI
Posts: 4,639
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
I spent several years as an aircraft mechanic at MIA, and worked flightline damage repairs daily, and 3 or 4 direct runway crashes, I never saw a windscreen that *tore* away like these did, we did have heavy hail and bird damage, but not a *tear* situation...

I have seen bird's enter helicopter cockpits at low velocity though...

I guess my basic simple question is > does the current offshore sanction bodies have a windscreen spec for thickness/composition/material for open or enclosed cockpits?
"Take your question direct to Skater. The general internet public won't know the answer."
thirdchildhood is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 09:56 AM
  #88
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Turku, Finland
My Boats: Something small blown and light
Posts: 1,814
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gripenland View Post
The HANS device was invented to prevent basilar scull fractures. A fracture that occurred in formula cars, high G accidents, with a very reclined seating position and heavy full face helmets. Conditions that put a lot of strain on the base of the scull.

Offshore powerboat accidents are usually moderate G accidents, upright seating, and lighter helmets.

Are basilar skull fractures a common problem in offshore racing? If so, HANS or other head and neck restrains should be adopted by as many as possible.
If not, the risk of the HANS getting stuck when evacuating should be considered.

Just my 2 cents.
The Stuffs are plus violent rollovers are high G impacts up to 25G was measured for example at Casiraghis crash.

Yes they are somewhat common. Bobby Saccenti had one for example in the Apache cat back in the day.
Do not recall the death causes of Mark Lavin and Stefano Casiraghi but wouldn' t count it out.

Theres little risk in a Hans getting stuck when evacuating IMO. It hasn't been a risk in racecars either where fire is always a threat. Once you get used to wearing it you do not even notice it racing.
MikeyFIN is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 10:10 AM
  #89
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Turku, Finland
My Boats: Something small blown and light
Posts: 1,814
Default Getting offtopic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
I spent several years as an aircraft mechanic at MIA, and worked flightline damage repairs daily, and 3 or 4 direct runway crashes, I never saw a windscreen that *tore* away like these did, we did have heavy hail and bird damage, but not a *tear* situation...
Reply moved here

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ml#post3550087

Last edited by MikeyFIN; 11-15-2011 at 10:16 AM. Reason: Reply moved
MikeyFIN is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2011, 10:12 AM
  #90
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 72
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA View Post
I guess my basic simple question is > does the current offshore sanction bodies have a windscreen spec for thickness/composition/material for open or enclosed cockpits?
There are many organisations and there fore many specs:
Here are a few:

WPPA Class 1 and X-cat: Polycarbonate min 12 mm
UIM 3C: Polycarbonate or similar, tandem min 7.9 mm side-by-side min 9.5 mm
LUCAS OIL DRAG BOAT RACING SERIES: Polycarbonate min 0.5" before hot forming
Gripenland is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:15 PM.


Copyright 2011 OffShoreOnly. All rights reserved.