Commentary: The Spin on 190
#51
With the exception of the last two years I have run the A-Bay Poker Run since 2003, and the 1000 Island Poker Run. I have never seen Bill run in an unsafe manner. Bill lives on the river and I am sure he gives the proper respect to his neighbors, tourists, and anyone else running on the river. Let's not forget that the same model boat was involved in a low speed rollover in Key West two years ago. If the speeds were ANYWHERE near the speeds being ASSUMED I am sure the results would have been catastrophic. Until we know some hard facts lets give them the benefit of the doubt. Just my .02.
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With the exception of the last two years I have run the A-Bay Poker Run since 2003, and the 1000 Island Poker Run. I have never seen Bill run in an unsafe manner. Bill lives on the river and I am sure he gives the proper respect to his neighbors, tourists, and anyone else running on the river. Let's not forget that the same model boat was involved in a low speed rollover in Key West two years ago. If the speeds were ANYWHERE near the speeds being ASSUMED I am sure the results would have been catastrophic. Until we know some hard facts lets give them the benefit of the doubt. Just my .02.
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I am usually pretty good at research and finding things often missed.
I have spent way too much time today trying to ascertain if this supposed, rumoured spin ever occurred.
I have found nothing that doesn't have a disclaimer attached!
Granted, there have been some great statements and misstatements said about it, but all for naught if the entire conversation started with what is basically a lie!
I have found nothing! One of the posts said something of a posted video... yes there is a posted video! The video appears to possibly be near Carleton Island where the GFs can stretch their legs, NOT of any spin or near accident.
http://www.abay.com/alexandriabaynynews2452.htm this is the link which seems to be used to prove the mishap, it says in the teaser it is a rumor!
In this case I think I would just as soon be wrong, so if anyone has anything which truly documents this incident, please post it.
I have spent way too much time today trying to ascertain if this supposed, rumoured spin ever occurred.
I have found nothing that doesn't have a disclaimer attached!
Granted, there have been some great statements and misstatements said about it, but all for naught if the entire conversation started with what is basically a lie!
I have found nothing! One of the posts said something of a posted video... yes there is a posted video! The video appears to possibly be near Carleton Island where the GFs can stretch their legs, NOT of any spin or near accident.
http://www.abay.com/alexandriabaynynews2452.htm this is the link which seems to be used to prove the mishap, it says in the teaser it is a rumor!
In this case I think I would just as soon be wrong, so if anyone has anything which truly documents this incident, please post it.
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From: yorkville,il
it seems strange that someone claims to have a video of a 190 mph spinout,but it is no where to be found,and not 1 person has said they saw it happen.it,s rumors like this that keep insurance premiums rising,until i see some factuial information,i will concider this nothing more than a rumor.
#56
There are a lot of go fast boat owners now that have more than one boat. Be it a CC, pontoon, ski boat, whatever. I feel pretty confident in saying that when they're out there with their family, the last thing they would think is cool, is a boat doing a wide, sweeping turn near them at 190 mph.
Just like having a corvette, or any serious car, takes a mature person to understand safe and common sense, it's the same way on the water. Unfortunately, the accidents take place every single year. Mostly drunks, but some just funnin around. It's already ruined night boating, on many rivers people are too scared to go out, and on many lakes people from pontoons and up have to deal with speed limits because of the crazies.
Matt is right. I continue to be amazed that anyone can see anything at those speeds, much less a PWC or kayak or whatever. Three miles a second. I know for certain my eyes aren't that good, I wonder if anyone's really are. There's a reason drag races and racing in general isn't allowed on the roadways. Nobody else would stand a chance.
Not an indictment of performance boating. Just some boaters, many of whom have ruined boating in general in many areas. The first time you hit anything will be your last. At those speeds, it probably would be the very last thing you do.
Just like having a corvette, or any serious car, takes a mature person to understand safe and common sense, it's the same way on the water. Unfortunately, the accidents take place every single year. Mostly drunks, but some just funnin around. It's already ruined night boating, on many rivers people are too scared to go out, and on many lakes people from pontoons and up have to deal with speed limits because of the crazies.
Matt is right. I continue to be amazed that anyone can see anything at those speeds, much less a PWC or kayak or whatever. Three miles a second. I know for certain my eyes aren't that good, I wonder if anyone's really are. There's a reason drag races and racing in general isn't allowed on the roadways. Nobody else would stand a chance.
Not an indictment of performance boating. Just some boaters, many of whom have ruined boating in general in many areas. The first time you hit anything will be your last. At those speeds, it probably would be the very last thing you do.
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it seems strange that someone claims to have a video of a 190 mph spinout,but it is no where to be found,and not 1 person has said they saw it happen.it,s rumors like this that keep insurance premiums rising,until i see some factuial information,i will concider this nothing more than a rumor.
#58
OK my dad and I were in last place ( if there were places) and we saw bill in eel bay for people who know the area there's no way he was going 190 there!!!! bill loves speed but he's not an idiot! !!! And at the evening banquet there was nothing said about any close calls
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From: Bokeelia, FL
The problem is the disservice to all involved!
If not true, an unfair blemish has been attached to My Way, the helmsman, the owner, the crew, the sport and the function!
Some "do gooder" hears of this untruth and there could always be a chance A Bay might not be able to run this event again.
Solution? Might not be one! The bell has been rung and any attempt to try to prove it never happened could be looked on as a cover-up. Might be easier to resolve if it did happen!
If not true, an unfair blemish has been attached to My Way, the helmsman, the owner, the crew, the sport and the function!
Some "do gooder" hears of this untruth and there could always be a chance A Bay might not be able to run this event again.
Solution? Might not be one! The bell has been rung and any attempt to try to prove it never happened could be looked on as a cover-up. Might be easier to resolve if it did happen!
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From: yorkville,il
i am suprised that mr trulio would do a commentary without facts to back it up,if he has facts on this,i would think he would post them,if not,he helped to fuel the rumor fire.matt,do you know more on this than what you have already posted?



