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96scarab 07-06-2012 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3724525)
96scarab,with all due respect,are you kidding,no captian in their right mind would allow 27 people on a vessle that size at any time for any reason,except if those people were in the water and in distress,then it would be a rescue.if my best friend did what that captian did,i could in no way defend his actions,do you really think if he were a respected oso member,that would make his action acceptiable?i believe if he were a respected oso member,and he acted in this manner,he would no longer be a [respected member].im sorry,but i cant understand why you suggest his action is acceptiable,i believe he had no concerne for the passengers aboard the vessel.

Agreed..But shouldn't the parents shoulder some responsibility by putting the kids in harms way in the first place?

Stormrider 07-06-2012 12:28 PM

There is no fact of a blow by wake.
A 50 SeaRay doing 12kts will make a LARGE wake.

The LI Sound is open waters. A large wake could have come from 1/2 a mile away or further.
I've been out in these waters plenty of times. A wake will seemingly come out of no where.

It was a calm night. I watched the fireworks(from NYC all the way to Rye Playland, which is NW) from a friends house on the water.

Btw, from the article Warparty36 linked, the operator was not the owner. No mention whether the owner was onboard.

Stormrider 07-06-2012 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 3724565)
Agreed..But shouldn't the parents shoulder some responsibility by putting the kids in harms way in the first place?

True, but many a passenger may not know the limitations of a vessel and rules of the waterways., where the captain should.

HTRDLNCN 07-06-2012 12:58 PM

lifesavers would not have made a difference by the way...
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Authorities said the children who died got trapped in the cabin.
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Only thing that would have helped is not having the boat loaded with twice its rated weight..

Scarab Billy 07-06-2012 01:46 PM

Wow...It makes me wonder what people are thinking...if they think at all. What a tragedy for the families. I have noticed alot of newer large boat owners with what I call "Titanic mindset". Meaning they think they have a large boat that is unsinkable and will go wherever they want it too, and pilot it accordingly....anyway they want. The non-boaters aboard that nite had no idea of the dangers. It's a crying shame.

akaboatman 07-06-2012 03:17 PM

I just wonder ? You invite a bunch of people out on the boat. They bring friends, Kids an You make a bad mistake ? Not saying no to the people that showed up. I'm not defending anyone. Just maybe didn't say no when He should have. You can't control 27 people on a boat. Sorry for the Kids an Family. R.I.P Artie

wannabe 07-06-2012 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 3723965)
I bet if the owner/operater was a respected member of OSO this thread would have a completly different tone......

Actually no....

I would say WTF were you thinking...

Somebody has to live with what happened and that may almost be as bad as losing a family member. I know I would not be sleeping at night.

My heart still goes out to all who lost family.

Wannabe

HTRDLNCN 07-06-2012 03:33 PM

I am pretty specific when I invite people on the boat about if they can or cant bring a freind.
If they still bring extra people or kids without telling me I tell them sorry you cant go.
I would rather be known as an azzhole than the guy on the 5 o'clock news.

akaboatman 07-06-2012 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN (Post 3724678)
I am pretty specific when I invite people on the boat about if they can or cant bring a freind.
If they still bring extra people or kids without telling me I tell them sorry you cant go.
I would rather be known as an azzhole than the guy on the 5 o'clock news.

I do agree with You. This is so sad. I allso can't help but wander if they though this was a prank call at first after the last one. Sad what people do. Be safe an enjoy Your weekend My friends. Artie

Lighthouse 07-06-2012 05:10 PM


The LI Sound is open waters. A large wake could have come from 1/2 a mile away or further... A wake will seemingly come out of no where.
Yes; those tankers do make large wakes. However; this was in Oyster Bay Cove I believe.


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