Yacht goes down off NY
 

Last night watching fireworks

http://news.yahoo.com/3-dead-24-resc...102513708.html

3 dead




27 people on a 34 silverton?

Idiots everywhere. 27 people??? WTF. Sorry for families...

My kids dont get on the boat without their lifejacket, let alone at night...

First, I am saddened at the loss of life and my heart goes out to those who lost family.

Secondly, I am angered because an irresponsible owner operated his craft unsafely endangering all the passengers. This gives boaters a bad name. There is NO way 27 people should have been on that boat. It was way over capacity which probably contributed to the capsizing due to center of gravity issues.

Wannabe

Three kids, so sad


http://gma.yahoo.com/boat-capsizes-o...opstories.html

27 people on a 34 ft. Silverton???? Definitely not a yacht... Definitely not smart ... And, definitely not worth the cost...What people won't do for a little fun....Payers for the victims... :lolhit:

Too many people on the flybridge and then taking a wave on the side and that boat is going over. We had a guy die here last week after the 12 foot long boat he was in capsized during a storm that came through, the other FOUR people on the boat survived. The stupidity of some people amazes me.

"police trying to figure out what happened"

overloaded thats what happened


if it was a gofast accident it would already be " speed related"

2 seperate idiots caused this. 1 the guy who decided 27 people on his boat was ok. 2 the idiot who decided to go screaming past a crowd of boats watching fireworks and waking everybody. my hatteras is rated for 11 or 12 people. and 1 have no doubt it is much more stable than a silverton the same size at any given weight load. also silverton puts a GREAT BIG flybridge on their boats. tempting many more people to go upstairs...

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condolences to those families who lost loved ones


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Very sad!!Mainships&Silvertons are top heavy in wind with no one aboard let alone 27 people again very sad RIP!!!Lake George had a over load accident a few years back?

The location where this happened ends up being a mad house when the show is over.
It's probably the worst time of the year to be out on the water.

We were out on the sound last night and heard the coast guard call.

RIP to the children that perished :(

Sad that innocents lose thier lives from bonehead actions of others..
People just dont use their brains much these days. Society seems to encourage stupid people.
Every weekend out here I see little 20ft open bow rental boats loaded with 10-12people
on them , they were told by rental company not to overload, they get stopped by cops and ticketed
yet they keep doing it over and over.Then when someone gets hurt or dies they sue everyone in sight.

I bet if the owner/operater was a respected member of OSO this thread would have a completly different tone......

I would hope a "respected" member of OSO [at least the ones I have met/spoke with] would have enough common sense not to put that many people, especially children in a dangerous situation on the water.

Agreed.

Some people are not as "perfect" as you I guess

OSO member or not...captain/boat owner should go to jail. Make me sick to think about those kids.

I'd hope anyone who is the captain of their vessel, responsible for their passengers, would have the common sense not to put that many people on their boat, putting all at risk!

I bet if you knew how to spell or use spell check your statement

would still be stupid. Kids died and you're trying to start ****.

You are a first class A-hole!

Very sad day for the boating community. Regardless of how careless the vessel owner was. Three children lost their lives. No one should ever have to bury their child.

Prayers to all the families involved.

I am far from perfect, and I don't think you need to be "perfect" to realize that it's common sense not to intentionally put the lives of others aboard your boat in danger. Hopefully you manage to figure that out. In the meantime, I, along with anyone aboard my boat will remain imperfect, and SAFE!

Condolences an Prayers sent to the families of the deceased.

Tragic; Tragic.

Aren't life vests required for kids in N.Y.?

Michael

I believe life vests are required for ALL people on board, child or otherwise. The problem with life vests is they are like bulletproof vests......they arent much good if you don't wear them.

This is why I make everyone wear a life jacket at night or in rough weather. I also put whistles ($2) and strobe lights ($10) on all my lifejackets.

And 27 people on a 34 foot boat?!

Yes for children under 12 - except if they are in the cabin.

It's actually kids under 12, on a boat under 40 feet, while underway. This is a case where they could have been anchored, I don't know the details well enough though.

You know, I’ve been on the water for over 50 years and I’ve seen my share of fun, heroics, stupidity and tragedy. Sadly, allowing 27 people on a 34’ Silverton cruiser is beyond unconscionable. Even if all 27 people had PFD’s – which is highly doubtful – the likelihood of all 27 being able to abandon ship safely in even the best of conditions is about zero. I’d even propose that he only reason so many people survived was that so many other vessels were near this boat when it went over.

I truly feel sorry for the friends and family of those that needlessly lost their lives in this sad incident. I also feel sorry for the captain because he will have to live with his poor decisions for the rest of his life. But for anybody to blame a wave for this boat capsizing is pure folly. A jet ski wake could have knocked that thing over. As much as I hate to say it, the captain should be properly (criminally) charged for his actions here.

so sad....kids involved....RIP

I wouldn't let 27 people on a 34' Silverton at the dock, let alone on the water. Something about 4th of July brings out some very questionable boating behavior.

very true the fourth brings out the best

Was it overloaded??? You think? The owner of the boat has to live with this now too. SAD situation.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ng-3-kids?lite

96scarab,with all due respect,are you kidding,no captian in their right mind would allow 27 people on a vessle that size at any time for any reason,except if those people were in the water and in distress,then it would be a rescue.if my best friend did what that captian did,i could in no way defend his actions,do you really think if he were a respected oso member,that would make his action acceptiable?i believe if he were a respected oso member,and he acted in this manner,he would no longer be a [respected member].im sorry,but i cant understand why you suggest his action is acceptiable,i believe he had no concerne for the passengers aboard the vessel.

he had no concern, because he had no clue. it wasn't the 27 people, it was that (i will bet) at least half (the 150 to 200 lb half) were up on the flybridge making the boat totally top heavy. you put 27 people in the cabin and on the cockpit, that boat is still right side up and doesn't make the news. but the guy who blew by and waked everybody in typical drunk 4th of july fashion shares a partial blame here...

We all call the 4th "Rookie Day"... I saw a Regal downtown Nashville that was maybe 28'-30' and a 8.5' beam boat with 28 people Wednesday night. The swim platform was almost in the water from the weight! Luckily it is no wake in the area where we all tie up and there were no tragedies like this. The TWRA does a great job in conjunction with the Coast guard, USCOE, and Metro Police making Nashville's show safe as it can be.

wakes and waves are a part of boating, Its solely your job as captain to keep everyone aboard your vessel safe! its horrible that children had to pay the price.......