Originally Posted by monkeysea2 (Post 3786056)

isn't the cheif mold based off the 41' apache?

The punisher is gorgeous! I love the old school lines. So psyched to see checkmate bringing out new models in this hard times.:drool1:

Originally Posted by altamate (Post 3764687)

This boat is totally out of my league even at 1/2 the price(499,000). I love it and maybe some day could buy a used one?

Having never shopped for a boat like this, I'm curious if the price on it is where it needs to be. Anyone out there think this is a great price for a 41' twin 700 merc off-shore? Is this boat going to make some other brands look overpriced?

What is the starting point for 40-43 footers from the other brands that this boat is up against?

Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 3764797)

seem's high 2 me for a checkmate .
but now if you take off 35% from the msrp that is normal y done then your at the $ 325 k price range . then I think you will have a seller :)
mike

Originally Posted by JUPITER PULSARE (Post 3768044)

Panther, no matter how good a new boat turns out, there always seems to be a select few "Apache" fanatics that will bad mouth it no matter what...infact, most of the Apache threads are surrounded by controversy just as the real Apache boat company was. Yes, Apache boats were built like battle tanks and weighed a ton, but the new Punisher is not trying to compete with ancient history. They've taken a classic offshore design with a "relatively" newer step bottom and rebuilt the boat using todays materials. The boat is a pleasure boat; not a race boat. It's built the same way many other boats are built (end grain Balsa cored, bi directional 1708 glass, hand laid, vinylester resins, etc). Checkmate's mold work is second to none, in fact in my opinion they're one of the best. I believe Checkmate will do very well with the Punisher 43. With Fountain, Baja & Donzi all dorment, Checkmate is giving the public an attainable new 41' high performance boat at a reasonable price and filling a void that many of the other high performace builders
(Outerlimits, Nortech, Skater, MTI, Mystic, Cigarette, etc.) are missing. So let the Apache fanatics blow off their steam.....it will be entertaining when they get passed by a new 43' Punisher with half the horsepower and weight!!

Originally Posted by yarrowtavern (Post 3786036)

10,300 lbs sounds hard to believe

Originally Posted by check300 (Post 4374165)

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Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4374184)

Looks like 20K in gas. WOW

Originally Posted by check300 (Post 4374165)

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Originally Posted by check300 (Post 4374165)

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Originally Posted by dmaxximus (Post 4374209)

Haha Bill, common...towing speed doesn't count! Seriously nice work sir, love that boat and great owners.

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Originally Posted by Nykamp (Post 4374237)

It's a awesome boat, every time I walk around her I am amazed at how deep she is, tons of freeboard but still has great lines.

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4374256)

Gotta say was pretty impressed how flat and level it ran in some snotty water.


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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3756925)

And a 911 Turbo that had 265 hp was awesome and one of the fastest cars on the road with that power in 1986 but that certainly wouldn't sell new today with that kind of performance.....

This boat is venturing into the big boat market and needs to match performance and features offered by the competition to be successful. Unfortunately top speed is a huge selling point that this boat needs to improve or it will be a one off production like the Chief boat.

I like Checkmates and respect their ambition in tough times to revive a big powerboat in an ever so shrinking market.

Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4375485)

Didnt the 42 chief run 110 with 700s and arnesons? I think the hefty price tag is what kèeping more chiefs from being built

Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4375485)

Didnt the 42 chief run 110 with 700s and arnesons? I think the hefty price tag is what kèeping more chiefs from being built

Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4375485)

Didnt the 42 chief run 110 with 700s and arnesons? I think the hefty price tag is what kèeping more chiefs from being built

Originally Posted by kreed (Post 4375533)

What changes were made to the boat to go from 91 MPH to 99 MPH ?

Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4375522)

I think it is the company owners causing the issue with production.......even more so now with Saccenti no longer involved.

Originally Posted by check300 (Post 4374165)

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Originally Posted by MonkeySea2 (Post 4375588)

Saccenti is no longer involved with Chief??

Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4375522)

I think it is the company owners causing the issue with production.......even more so now with Saccenti no longer involved.

Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4375522)

I think it is the company owners causing the issue with production.......even more so now with Saccenti no longer involved.

Originally Posted by check300 (Post 4375538)

Precision Power Offshore has worked on blueprinting the bottom. It's not perfect yet but more work will take place this off season. In addition Ben's been adding to the areation.

Originally Posted by scarabman (Post 4375779)

You got 8 mph just out of blueprinting/tweaking the bottom? Very impressive. What is being done to "add" to the aeration?

Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4375847)

Damn, with a pulley and tune plus new props you'll be embarrassing all the old big power apaches.

Originally Posted by soggy bottom (Post 4375867)

A C7 will run circles around an old Vette, But given the choice I would still rather have a split window.

Dean

Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4375874)

Not a good analogy imo