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thumper038 10-25-2012 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3802608)
I'm stayin out of this!!!!!

O hell no, you not your in it all the way Buddy :daz:

Your my promo dude :whistle:

thumper038 10-25-2012 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3802622)
sorry bro but no way anyone is running in 7 to 8s in Lake Michigan. grew up on that lake and 7 to 8s is nothing to phuck with

Grew up close to Alsip launch ran the river through the O'Brien lock and out through hell's kitchen every weekend and week day after work on full moon staying out way past bedtime then the big pond ran 5-6 all the time never said 8 but it keeps growing. Like a fish tale.

I have run 7-8 and don't like it but there is nothing like cresting a nice 5-6 roller and having a blast.

thumper038 10-25-2012 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Keytime (Post 3802599)
:blahblah:

So, about this run...

:cool-smiley-011:

I am in and will show so lets find the other competitor:eating:

thumper038 10-25-2012 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Myskater44 (Post 3802628)
Jim, if u dont get your power in for the race, ill be happy to bring my skater to the run, i would love to see a 41 apache run with us in 5-6 footers


We will see as time goes if they show :helmet:

cfischer 10-25-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 3801934)
I love Apaches and I love Skaters.....

I covered a race...a real race over a long course, at 10/10ths with pros in the cockpit, not a bunch of random powered, civilian Poker runners ...who go fast for a while, then back off, then go fast, etc.. in Ocean City Maryland back in the 90's.....

Small Craft warnings prevented a few competitors from actually making it out to the race course in the Atlantic.... A triple engined 46 Apache with supercharged power "Tweets Revenge" (about as hefty a rough water Apache as ever raced) took the early lead. The 40 foot naturally aspirated, Skater " Spirit of Norway" had difficulty at the start and fell behind immediately (In a Poker Run this would have qualified as a "decisive loss") but after getting sorted out and spotting the Apache about 2 miles in the race....The Skater hauled in the bigger boat....aand they both put on a race for the ages.

Bottom line... the Skater spotted the Apache 6 feet, and 50% more power......and still won. There is a part of me that believes a 41 Apache might have done better (better balance and aspect ratio, fewer moving parts and weight)...but still not enough to beat the cat.

The seas were legitimate 6 to 8's with an occasional 7th wave thrown in for jollies. Maybe if the seas had been 10 foot plus a different outcome might have occurred...but nobody races in those conditions....except some Great Lakes guys who think they cruise in 25 foot seas.

:P :D

P.S. yes this race is on tape.

what's the link?

cfischer 10-25-2012 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by thumper038 (Post 3802638)
Grew up close to Alsip launch ran the river through the O'Brien lock and out through hell's kitchen every weekend and week day after work on full moon staying out way past bedtime then the big pond ran 5-6 all the time never said 8 but it keeps growing. Like a fish tale.

I have run 7-8 and don't like it but there is nothing like cresting a nice 5-6 roller and having a blast.

the rollers are fun but very rare do we get nice rollers like the ocean. grew up in Grand Haven and been out in some huge waves but never where we could get going. best I've been in is 6fts with my buddy Parnel in his 41 saber with staggered 1000s or my buddy Curts 38's cig re-built for big waves with 950s. maybe hit over 60-70mph once but never in 7 to 8s

cfischer 10-25-2012 05:04 PM

hopefully the water is a little rough for the KW poker run. I say all the 41 apaches or cigs meet up with the skaters outside sunshine key and see who wins??!!! but the water has to be 5 to 6s

either way a 3 boats are badass!!!

thumper038 10-25-2012 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3802644)
the rollers are fun but very rare do we get nice rollers like the ocean. grew up in Grand Haven and been out in some huge waves but never where we could get going. best I've been in is 6fts with my buddy Parnel in his 41 saber with staggered 1000s or my buddy Curts 38's cig re-built for big waves with 950s. maybe hit over 60-70mph once but never in 7 to 8s

So what is the name of the Bar up the river by Pier 33 ? St Joe.
Wood block tall stack of onion rings ?

5-6 with a 7 is where this started.

thumper038 10-25-2012 05:08 PM

Kreed :cartman: where did you go???

BigSilverCat 10-25-2012 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by thumper038 (Post 3802640)
I am in and will show so lets find the other competitor:eating:

I do technically have a 41 Apache. I drained the fuel tanks last week to get all the old race gas out since it has not ran in a few years and started making some motor mounts for it a few days ago. I should have it ready to run in the spring. When do I need to have it up there?


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