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Originally Posted by CLA
(Post 4112091)
I will be at Ticfaw 200 in two weekends. Bring that fishing boat down and I'll buy you a beer. No hard feelings bro..........I just want you to see your judging a successful man you don't know on public forum. You think that is right????
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Originally Posted by low_psi
(Post 4112095)
What makes that person any more successful than me? You have no idea who he is or me. So even though you are saying "no hard feeling" you are still judging me based on my choice of boat.
Also, why are you upset I said you have a fishing boat/sport console. That's what it is! |
Originally Posted by abmotorman
(Post 4112096)
I like beer. Does that mean if I start to criticize others too I get a beer? Still waiting for warm weather. Carry on.
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Smoking the sound this weekend an Ticfaw 200 next. Yea Baby. See Y'all there.
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On the positive side....
All the posts and discussions here aren't bad. (ok, a few are) Whether or not you agree with low_psi, if you watched the video and read all the posts, at least you had to think about your own boating safety rules. captain wearing his lanyard, does not appear to be drinking, taking a nice little cruise in a big boat. I have seen a lot worse. Judging by the amount of open eyes I'm seeing, I don't think he hit 95. Still, too many people unsecured with no life jackets anywhere. Great looking kids. That boy in front was really having fun. They definitely need vests and proper seats. You won't pick a video apart of me running my boat. Not something like this. :( Couldn't AGREE more with your comments. No way did this boat ever hit 95mph. Their cheeks would have been flopping around. The kid in the front is jumping on purpose because he is having fun and wants more air time. As far as PFD's, I personally tell all kids on board (15 and under) when we are running above 55mph regardless of conditions. PFD's will be worn. Please rename this tread. "please make kids wear PFD's" I have mixed feeling I guess. He is keeping it safe by checking on everyone and the kid in front seems to know to hold on. I'll give him a pass! :) I will always think that if you are too cool for a lifejacket then you are an insecure douche. I don't think it's unreasonable that over 60 or so people should be seated or securely standing in a bolster, I think most on here have been around long enough to know that it just takes a wake, certain wave to get a bit harder of a hit. The dude's not trimming the bow down and doing stupid turns or anything like that so it's not the end of the world, but life preservers for the young ones and secure seating/standing for all is not an unreasonable action if you're going to romp on it a bit I don't like the fact that the kid in front could easily bash his teeth out. But, he's not my kid. I don't have a problem with the video. I've tossed my kids around a lot more than that:) Rule is life jackets on if the boat is not anchored or docked.....PERIOD! My kids are 7 and 12 though. I can't tell the difference between a 12 yr old and a 20 yr old kid anymore. For all I know the "kid" standing is 18+. |
Originally Posted by Pilotpete
(Post 4112106)
On the positive side....
All the posts and discussions here aren't bad. (ok, a few are) Whether or not you agree with low_psi, if you watched the video and read all the posts, at least you had to think about your own boating safety rules. So everyone had to think, and make a judgement of what they saw and what their own rules might be, and what everyone else's rules might be. I see that as a great safety discussion (regardless of what boat you drive). Certainly not worth calling anyone out on either side. I have my rules, and I've read everyone else's. Time well spent in my opinion. I would bet anyone who works in the safety biz would agree, regardless of what you think about this video. |
Originally Posted by abmotorman
(Post 4112096)
I like beer. Does that mean if I start to criticize others too I get a beer? Still waiting for warm weather. Carry on.
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Can we all try to grow up and stop calling names/throwing rocks?
It's boating season BTW. Save this crap for winter. |
He started it dad . :angry-smiley-038:
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Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4111994)
At least the kids are having some family fun with pops, not sitting behind a computer or playing video games all day. It's almost imposible to find a place to ride dirtbikes nowadays. 3-wheelers were banned in the 80's, hell you can't even play a game of jarts at the family BBQ. Where does it end?
Speaking of jarts does anyone have a set they want to sell? |
wait..people are arguing about this now? :lolhit:
still no skanks :confused: i'll check back later. |
Originally Posted by ApachePete
(Post 4111888)
That guy is good on the sticks.
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Originally Posted by the deep
(Post 4112112)
He started it dad . :angry-smiley-038:
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Originally Posted by Young Performance
(Post 4111738)
He was throttling it like the guy in the LOTO Fountain video:lolhit:
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Originally Posted by low_psi
(Post 4112094)
I did call you arrogant, however it was a typo in my post..SO for that I am very sorry. What I meant to say was "I think deleting a thread because everyone isn't in 100% agreeance is ignorant. (spell check change agreeance to arrogance...) So again, I am sorry for that. I have since made the change.
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This video represents about 99% of the boating that I see done on a weekly basis. If this guy is that irresponsible then I don't know one person that should own a pleasure boat. I understand the life jacket for kids under 12 or whatever age you prefer and he lanyard deal but what else do you want somebody to do? I mean come on, if I was going on my buddies boat and he said, "No drinking on the boat, you have to wear a PFD, only 4 passengers allowed at once, only going 45mph today cause there's 2 footers, etc, etc, etc...." I most likely would say I don't even want to go, have fun with your field trip.
At some point being anal about every little thing takes the fun out of it. Let's be honest if I was standing at the dock on a nice calm summer day and saw a 38 Top Gun with 5 middle aged dudes all wearing PFD's pull in, I would prolly get a good chuckle. |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4112136)
Let's be honest if I was standing at the dock on a nice calm summer day and saw a 38 Top Gun with 5 middle aged dudes all wearing PFD's pull in, I would prolly get a good chuckle.
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The guy in the front is drunk enough to be wearing one, but the rest are able to stand so they shouldn't require one.
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:whistle: :lolhit:
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Guess the mentality here is "It will never happen to me" or " It was fluke and hypothetical", guess what everyone is trying to say or at least I hope is, we all have family's and anytime we go out the objective is to come back in one piece uninjured.... and if you don't think it won't happen to you ask some family's that lost love ones because they weren't wearing a PFD..... but since I don't own a big boat or go 100+ MPH I don't know what I am talking about.
Accidents happen and I almost lost my oldest son to one |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4112157)
The guy in the front is drunk enough to be wearing one, but the rest are able to stand so they shouldn't require one.
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4112110)
Can we all try to grow up and stop calling names/throwing rocks?
It's boating season BTW. Save this crap for winter. Maker's Mark is the only choice for this crap. |
Or this....http://www.jimbeam.com/devils-cut
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Porter Ricks was a cool Dad That was a great time.
Everyone should keep calm and live a little. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJCvRfkHppg |
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Originally Posted by US1 Fountain
(Post 4112114)
I won't even give these to you. You'd get hurt and take my house. :D
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I've been following this thread some due to the safety issues at hand. I've always thought that kids 12 and younger ALWAYS had to have life jackets on while "underway" or they have to be inside the cabin. Today I was looking around Googling to verify this and I am stumped now. Here is what I found so far.....
California: What age must wear PFD: 12 years of age or younger. Vessel Length: 26 feet or less. When PFD Must be Worn: Approved PFD Styles: Type I, II, III or V Exceptions when PFD does not need to be worn: If the child is in an enclosed cabin, or on a sailboat if restrained by a harness tethered to the vessel. Link HERE So.....if your boat is over 26 feet in length, a lifejacket isn't required to be worn? :confused::confused::confused: On this same page: PFD Wear Requirements for Children by State In states where no children's life jacket law is in place, a U.S. Coast Guard interim rule requires children under 13 on moving boats to wear a U.S. Coast Guard approved life jacket that fits. This rule does not change or supersede the existing law in states which have life jacket laws, it only applies to states that have no laws. Please see the list below for the latest laws in your state. Please note that these laws provide boaters with the minimum age that a child is required to wear a life jacket. It is still a parent's responsibility to decide if a child should wear a life jacket, even in situations where the law does not require it. |
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This thread is a joke and needs help!!
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Low_psi is gonna be upset her butt is showing! It could offend the children! lmao
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I equate wearing a PFD on a boat to wearing a seatbelt in the car, or wearing a helmet on a motorcycle. It's your own choice and effects nobody but yourself. So, the most logical way to handle the life jacket situation is simply offer one to every one of your passengers.
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Let's have a reality check. 70% of deaths in boating accidents are due to drowning. Almost 85% of people who drowned had no life jacket on.
A. Your kid drowns In a boating accident. Your life is ruined, and your marriage is most likely over. You can remain in a state of depression for your remaining years, always wondering why you didn't use life jackets, and how you killed your kid. B. You drown in a boating accident, and your kid lives. Your kid's life is ruined by not having a father or mother to raise him/her, and they are angry at you for dying. With every life milestone, graduations, marriage, birth of children, they are reminded that they are missing a parent. Michael |
Originally Posted by Michael1
(Post 4112218)
Let's have a reality check. 70% of deaths in boating accidents are due to drowning. Almost 85% of people who drowned had no life jacket on.
A. Your kid drowns In a boating accident. Your life is ruined, and your marriage is most likely over. You can remain in a state of depression for your remaining years, always wondering why you didn't use life jackets, and how you killed your kid. B. You drown in a boating accident, and your kid lives. Your kid's life is ruined by not having a father or mother to raise him/her, and they are angry at you for dying. With every life milestone, graduations, marriage, birth of children, they are reminded that they are missing a parent. Michael |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4112214)
I equate wearing a PFD on a boat to wearing a seatbelt in the car, or wearing a helmet on a motorcycle. It's your own choice and effects nobody but yourself. So, the most logical way to handle the life jacket situation is simply offer one to every one of your passengers.
Flying 'bodies' have killed people in car accidents. Such usually happens usually in the same vehicle in a collision and/or rollover when 1 occupant pinballs around and takes out everyone else. But an 175 lbs. ejected mass at speed can do damage to whatever else it hits as well (has also happened) |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4112214)
I equate wearing a PFD on a boat to wearing a seatbelt in the car, or wearing a helmet on a motorcycle. It's your own choice and effects nobody but yourself. So, the most logical way to handle the life jacket situation is simply offer one to every one of your passengers.
But where do you stop? If I over salt my food and have high blood pressure everyone else is paying for my condition. So we better take salt away from restaurants and grocery stores!!! P.S. I don't make my kids wear helmets when they ride their bikes. But thanks to our society, they get a trophy for showing up to an event. Be careful how you nit pick on how others raise their own or we won't have any choices left to ourselves. |
WOW, this thread went from irresponsible boater video to pinball people.
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Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4112236)
WOW, this thread went from irresponsible boater video to pinball people.
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Anyone that tries to dictate to me how to live MY life will be considered a tyrant and treated as such . If you enjoy being dictated to then may I suggest you move to a country that is run by just such a person . Live , let live and mind your own phuckin business . And this is all I have to say about that .
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After having watched the video I can make the following observations. The driver did have a lanyard on , no one was wearing a pfd , he appeared to be in complete control of the craft , the water conditions did not appear to be ruff . Save for the fact that no one was wearing a pfd I don't believe the operater was doing anything that the great majority have done at some point in our boating careers. For all the people that have commented on the lack of PFD's by the passangers ,even if they were wearing standard issue pfd's and he was in fact going in excess of 90 mph they would have been of no value as most standard issue pfd's are rated for 50 mph or less . Should one of the passangers exited the boat at 95 mph wearing a std pfd it would have ripped apart on impact and if the person was to have drowned they probably would have drowned in any event . I would venture to gues that the great majority of the boaters on this site ( me included ) that have boats that go in excess of 70 mph probably do not have the appropriate life jackets for the situation.I shutter to think that the guy driving his offshore 90 mph with his inflatable pfd believing that pfd will save him should he hit the water at 90. So it is easy to critize what other do , but we should look in the mirror before we come down to hard on our boating brothers. Just my 2 cents
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