From what I have gathered on here most said the 38 was a dog.

one of the best and most educational threads on here in a long time thanks everyone, the old history is neat . one has to wonder how famous kramer would be today if the escape had been sucessfull?

if the escape would have been successful, and if it would have happened as planned, he would have become the most infamous outlaw in modern history.

Soo Jusabum may I ask again what brought you onto this site to join in on such a thread as this?

I built my new Cig race boat that winter.
I believe the 28 cig in the photo was the Miami boat show boat.[ATTACH=CONFIG]531490[/ATTACH]

I think at the 79 miami show Cigarette had a 28 and a 35 displayed side by side with a 20 laying on it's side on the floor between them. Cool thing is they were all painted in a matching dark blue a with a black and silver hockey stick.
And Banana boat was 20 feet from them.

I had all kinds of pics from that year but where they are is beyond me.

He'd more than likely be dead by now too.....

Thanks for asking, it just so happens i follow some of the offshore racing history.... and what about you? You own a Monza?

Ben has tried unsuccessfully to overturn his conviction in the Aronow case. He is aware Don's friends are helping to keep his drug kingpin/money laundering/failed escape attempt conviction penalties binding. I suppose if he were innocent, with all legal avenues failed/exhausted......perhaps his Lawyer could set up a polygraph test concerning the Aronow murder conviction. Pass the test, rid himself of his accomplice status in the eyes of many. Draw some attention and much needed sympathetic feeling to his situation. Of course he would have to be innocent to go this route. Just a thought..

Great read thanks for the link. Incredible amount of history on this site.