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Diamond Dave 10-20-2015 06:25 PM

This thread is great! I just read all 34 pages. From hulls, molds, different companies and the people behind them, murders and drug trafficking it's all mind boggling! It's nice to connect some of the dots here and there and get a better feeling about the history of this sport... truly amazing and I'm sure there is soooo much more we will all never know. Someone need to make a movie about all this! WOW!

Canuck B Crazy 10-20-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4368295)
As much as I am FOR it- I think it has a long way to go! We cant even get strong Beer in OK.

Its the only option. The next president will cave in, its their only move. Nobody has the balls to make the only other move and that's enforcing federal law with federal law enforcement against the legal states. Easier to go legal.

onesickpantera 10-23-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 4368271)
If you noticed Ben tried to overturn his conviction in the Aronow case, unsuccessfully of course, but he wanted it removed from his record. After serving 25 plus years in prison he has learned every conviction weighs in overall, and he is paying dearly. Life/freedom is a one shot deal, this isn't a test drive.

I'm sure manslaughter will always be relevant to early release and/or parole. But, I thought we were talking about the money laundering? Which is probably irrelevant at this point.

Comanche3Six 10-23-2015 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 4369066)
I'm sure manslaughter will always be relevant to early release and/or parole. But, I thought we were talking about the money laundering? Which is probably irrelevant at this point.

Money laundering conviction irrelevant? Not when he can't get out, every conviction is relevant.

WARPARTY36 03-17-2016 03:02 PM

Did he try it again???:grinser010: It takes big stones to try and escape in a helicopter. It's hard to believe that in over 3 minutes nobody noticed a helo in a prison and tried to stop it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...cape-1.3492898

klaatutooyou 03-17-2016 03:29 PM

that was 3 years ago in Canada

But it was fun to watch .

how do not get away after that . id run like the dickens lol

SB 03-17-2016 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 4417152)
Did he try it again???:grinser010: It takes big stones to try and escape in a helicopter. It's hard to believe that in over 3 minutes nobody noticed a helo in a prison and tried to stop it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...cape-1.3492898

They said on CNN their rule (or law) is for the police not to get engaged (or something like that) with a jail break. Fuked up. Wonder what the reason or data is for that and then what they do to track them down ? They did not get into that part. Maybe I'll investigate it later

jaykay3 09-03-2017 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4368311)
This thread is great! I just read all 34 pages. From hulls, molds, different companies and the people behind them, murders and drug trafficking it's all mind boggling! It's nice to connect some of the dots here and there and get a better feeling about the history of this sport... truly amazing and I'm sure there is soooo much more we will all never know. Someone need to make a movie about all this! WOW!

Movie is being made! Can't wait.
You guys have to read Blue Thunder...gives a lot of reality to the Aronow murder and what exactly the Kramers were up to.

jusabum 09-04-2017 06:02 AM

NOBODY knew "exactly" what Kramer was up to.

The Movie
Speedboat racing champion and multimillionaire, Ben Aronoff, leads a double life that lands him in trouble with the law and drug lords.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6749318/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3

SABER28 09-04-2017 04:57 PM

whats up with the cast as well as john Travolta as "ben Aronoff"?????


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