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rak rua 10-16-2015 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4367097)
When you are young and making millions every month..........you never "stash" money away for the future because you think you can just bring over another load to replenish the coffers! That was the attitude with the race team as well. :eek:

Yeah, agree with that. When you're young and doing well, you just spend it. Once you're a bit older, saving or stashing makes sense and gets a bit easier. In my twenties, everything I ever saw was spent (wasted) on boats and cars. I still spend too much on both now but luckily, I also learned to save a bit for sensible investments.

RR

P.S. I never saw the amounts of money Kramer was in contact with but I think the basic principle still applies!

Canuck B Crazy 10-17-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4367089)
That whole deal went out the window 7 years ago when the US cracked down on UBS.

i worked for very wealthy Swiss for many years.

The UBS was Americans with accounts in their name. You can pay a Swiss banker to put the account in their name and front it for you. Swiss law will know reveal a foreigners account to the foreigners government. But not a Swiss citizens account. Normally its done via a shell corporations registered in another safe haven. Like the Turks and Caicos. You make the Swiss citizen CEO, it also appears they own the corporation. They can then open accounts in Switzerland. The paper trail appears a Swiss citizen is the corporation and account holders. Drug dealers have been doing this for 30 years.

jusabum 10-17-2015 04:06 PM

Ben Kramer was a VERY smart and intelligent individual wth a lot of common sense and street smarts - He was never afraid of going back in and was the cockiest individual you could ever meet. You could also look at him goofy and he would have your leg broken, he didn't fuk around. And although he spent a lot of his money on his toys and fun (personal), he never spent it recklessly and he never acted it like it would never run out. (i mean look at the cheap-ass chopper he used to try and break him out, if he spent a few more bucks, this whole story would be very different today)

If you followed his case, every once in a while they would find another $20 million here and then another $20 million there, so its tough to say how many here & there's he had/has. There are ONLY 2 people who know his financial status.

Anyways, it doesn't really matter, the only way he gets out is in a box.

Comanche3Six 10-17-2015 04:56 PM

https://www.facebook.com/LIFE-SENTEN...683/timeline/#

Jupiter Sunsation 10-18-2015 07:46 AM

Is Ben's dad Jack still alive?

JMP 10-18-2015 06:47 PM

Pretty good read
http://tarpley.net/online-books/geor...-war-on-drugs/

Keith Atlanta 10-18-2015 07:32 PM

Is this about the war on Marijuana or killing somebody?

Comanche3Six 10-19-2015 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4367621)
Is this about the war on Marijuana or killing somebody?

Money laundering

http://www.leagle.com/decision/19911...%20v.%20KRAMER

Greatguy66 10-19-2015 06:35 PM

With all that money flying around ya think the cops boosted any??:rolleyes:

Comanche3Six 10-19-2015 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Greatguy66 (Post 4367975)
With all that money flying around ya think the cops boosted any??:rolleyes:

I know the Lawyers did.


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