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Old 02-18-2015 | 05:00 PM
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Is this the same guy/company that had the Spectre molds repossessed? He went and bought a splashed skater mold?
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Old 02-18-2015 | 05:08 PM
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http://www.sonicboats.net/brochure.cfm
Chuck's boat is shown in the online brochure.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 05:17 PM
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Acquiring a popular brand name for cover, while the old crooks set up the old games for the new unsuspecting customer. That's the oldest trick in the book.

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Old 02-18-2015 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike A.
JS - I have a great relationship with Tony. I put my project on hold because I was just too busy. He and his crew at Sonic have moved on and forward. They have a terrific new base of customers and are on solid ground now.
I thought Sonic already had a great group of customers and fan base. If anything from all Tony has done it seems as if it only spoils a name with a great reputation. He builds some beautiful boats but I would have to tread super lightly to deal in new business with the man.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 05:43 PM
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That's it. Haven't seen it in awhile online now. He did have it on his lift at his own house. Guess I supplied a demo for a summer.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 05:45 PM
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I think we are at 3500 views today and climbing.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 06:00 PM
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Is this the same Charles "Chuck" Allen that got screwed by Frisini? Plead not guilty then later plead guilty


Charles Allen, 41, of Saratoga, pleaded not guilty Thursday to his role in a cash and car scheme at Garvey Hyundai in Plattsburgh.

"There were a number of vehicles, 24, that were transferred to ACR Motors and they were never paid for," Clinton County Assistant District Attorney Timothy Blatchley said.

Those vehicles had a retail value of $136,000. Allen would then allegedly sell them through his car wholesale company. Prosecutors say his employee, Richard Bashant, 32, arranged the delivery of the cars from Julie Perry, 51, of Altona, the office manager at Garvey Hyundai in Plattsburgh.

"They have purchased cars through Garvey Hyundai and they met just through their business relationship," Blatchley said.

Prosecutors would not say why the two men agreed to work with Perry in her scheme that they say netted her $1.4 million in assets over the past 5 years. Police say $1 million of that was in cash by faking car sale documents.

"When people were paying for vehicles with a check from a credit union or bank she would take those checks and white out the names and the dates, then type in her name," Blatchley explained.

And they say she made another $400,000 by stealing more than 30 vehicles.

"She was able to obtain vehicles and make it appear that she purchased them-- she never had. When she didn't want the vehicle anymore she was able to bring the vehicle back and get a trade in for a vehicle she never purchased. And when I say trade in I mean cash," Blatchley said.

Prosecutors say the scheme was noticed when the owner of Garvey Hyundai based in Queensbury noted that of the handful of dealerships he owns, the Plattsburgh location was the only one not making a profit even though he was in town regularly. At the request of investigators and prosecutors, the owner of Garvey Hyundai declined comment for the story.

"Could it have been caught sooner? Yes. Could it never have been caught? Yes. She was doing that good of a job," Blatchley said.

Prosecutors declined to say whether they expect to make any more arrests in the case.

Perry is free on bail. Allen and Bashant are free on their own recognizance.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tzrider
Is this the same Charles "Chuck" Allen that got screwed by Frisini? Plead not guilty then later plead guilty


Charles Allen, 41, of Saratoga, pleaded not guilty Thursday to his role in a cash and car scheme at Garvey Hyundai in Plattsburgh.

"There were a number of vehicles, 24, that were transferred to ACR Motors and they were never paid for," Clinton County Assistant District Attorney Timothy Blatchley said.

Those vehicles had a retail value of $136,000. Allen would then allegedly sell them through his car wholesale company. Prosecutors say his employee, Richard Bashant, 32, arranged the delivery of the cars from Julie Perry, 51, of Altona, the office manager at Garvey Hyundai in Plattsburgh.

"They have purchased cars through Garvey Hyundai and they met just through their business relationship," Blatchley said.

Prosecutors would not say why the two men agreed to work with Perry in her scheme that they say netted her $1.4 million in assets over the past 5 years. Police say $1 million of that was in cash by faking car sale documents.

"When people were paying for vehicles with a check from a credit union or bank she would take those checks and white out the names and the dates, then type in her name," Blatchley explained.

And they say she made another $400,000 by stealing more than 30 vehicles.

"She was able to obtain vehicles and make it appear that she purchased them-- she never had. When she didn't want the vehicle anymore she was able to bring the vehicle back and get a trade in for a vehicle she never purchased. And when I say trade in I mean cash," Blatchley said.

Prosecutors say the scheme was noticed when the owner of Garvey Hyundai based in Queensbury noted that of the handful of dealerships he owns, the Plattsburgh location was the only one not making a profit even though he was in town regularly. At the request of investigators and prosecutors, the owner of Garvey Hyundai declined comment for the story.

"Could it have been caught sooner? Yes. Could it never have been caught? Yes. She was doing that good of a job," Blatchley said.

Prosecutors declined to say whether they expect to make any more arrests in the case.

Perry is free on bail. Allen and Bashant are free on their own recognizance.
There is a long thread already detailing all of this. Please check out the post by one of the victims of the thefts. Sometimes in life you get put in a no win situation. Please also note my sentence, I was facing a possible 15 year sentence and was released with no time nor any probation. Why do you think that is?Unless you have been in my situation justice isn't always what you read in the paper or on the net. When you google me do you find any other negativity in my 20 years of business? Mr. bashant was a short term employee of mine who was romantically involved with Julie Perry who had been stealing from that dealer for seven years. Prior to Mr. Bashant's employment with my company I never did business with Garvey Hyundai. Do the same for Frisina please. In closing, please note that I realized this would probably come back up today and I chose to speak out anyways. There are plenty of members here who can vouch for credibility.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tzrider
Is this the same Charles "Chuck" Allen that got screwed by Frisini? Plead not guilty then later plead guilty
So?

I am settling a deal just to stop the bleeding. I am right and he is wrong. Treble damages in FLA. I am cutting my losses.

But it is about my collision center with an impeccable 30 year reputation. Probably shouldn't but an AT I guess....right?

He settled. That was not this deal.
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Old 02-18-2015 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate5.0
I thought Sonic already had a great group of customers and fan base. If anything from all Tony has done it seems as if it only spoils a name with a great reputation. He builds some beautiful boats but I would have to tread super lightly to deal in new business with the man.
Sonic WAS the original "cult".
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