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JRider 10-27-2015 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4370276)
A lot of these million dollar go fast boats are all ran in salt water , you don't here these guy's *****ing about the salt , It's all in how you take care of it , just like Dean's motor :)
I drove 10 hours once to buy a lake boat that had more rust and pit then any of my salt water boats combined ," I turned around empty on that one " Most people don't understand that ALL water is corrosive fresh and salt , so the fresh water guy's don't spray and clean there motor's ect, properly because they think there safe from corrosion but there NOT , go look in person and have any boat you by surveyed and inspected

Lol, wtf we going to do...spray more water on it? The same fresh water you rinse your salt of with. That $hit is laughable. Year for year a saltwater boat will be worse in condition. There is no arguing that...just look at the prices

mikebrls 10-27-2015 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370330)
Lol, wtf we going to do...spray more water on it? The same fresh water you rinse your salt of with. That $hit is laughable. Year for year a saltwater boat will be worse in condition. There is no arguing that...just look at the prices

all I no is I went out of my way to buy a fresh water boat and it was worse the any of my boats put together , people that don't no talk **** , Look at all the 20 to 50 million dollar yatchs that are all salt water boats , you could eat of the engine room floors ,maintenance is the KEY

mikebrls 10-27-2015 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370330)
Lol, wtf we going to do...spray more water on it? The same fresh water you rinse your salt of with. That $hit is laughable. Year for year a saltwater boat will be worse in condition. There is no arguing that...just look at the prices

Again you have no clue what your talking about because you boat in fresh water , You just assume .
yes in salt water area's you can lightly spray engine bay with water let dry and then spray with CRC or w-d or any other type of product that reduces corrosion , Boesheild is a great product used on planes and marine applications

JRider 10-27-2015 05:18 PM

Oh please Mike, you are delusional. I don't know what I am talking about? Oh contrar. Ironically I am looking at a saltwater boat/s and they don't even compare. And don't even get me started on the trailers.

BTW...I only need to wash my bilge once a year and I do spray it down with WD right before I put it to bed for the evil winter.

mikebrls 10-27-2015 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370350)
Oh please Mike, you are delusional. I don't know what I am talking about? Oh contrar. Ironically I am looking at a saltwater boat/s and they don't even compare. And don't even get me started on the trailers.

BTW...I only need to wash my bilge once a year and I do spray it down with WD right before I put it to bed for the evil winter.

I guess your the man then , everyone one else no's nothing

JRider 10-27-2015 05:40 PM

"You're" "knows" proper grammer

And back to my original question, how do you totally desalt a boat? I'm talking interior and everything

Speedracer29 10-27-2015 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370357)
"You're" "knows" proper grammer

And back to my original question, how do you totally desalt a boat? I'm talking interior and everything

Your grammar may be ok, but your spelling needs a polish. Grammar. Grammarghhhhhh:daz:

As for desalting- water is a universal solvent. Use lots, then wipe it down or oil/wax/grease to limit the effects of the other minerals in the water. Surfactants (soaps) help. Treat it similarly to how you'd clean a muzzleloader or AK-47 on surplus ammo (corrosive salts in powder). Soap, water, oil. Maybe a cleaner that is (very) mildly alkaline, too?

JRider 10-27-2015 06:30 PM

Lol...autocorrect should have caught that ****. Touche

In my defense autocorrect did catch it, it is wrong in autocorrect. Even worse yet

1MOSES1 10-27-2015 06:47 PM

Think this topic has been beaten to death. Long story short maintenance is key regardless of where you boat fresh or salt for different reasons (salt corrosion, fresh rot). Leave it at that.

JRider 10-27-2015 07:17 PM

Lol...fresh rot? Water intrusion in wood causes rot. Sure freezing that $hit show does not help, but if you have water intrusion...who the hell wants the boat in the first place? Or is water intrusion ok in salt water?

Fresh water rot, Lmao.

Drew555 10-27-2015 07:22 PM

Salt sucks........... Flush flush spray spray wipe wipe pray pray. Crusty crusty crap. But still fun

1MOSES1 10-27-2015 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370398)
Lol...fresh rot? Water intrusion in wood causes rot. Sure freezing that $hit show does not help, but if you have water intrusion...who the hell wants the boat in the first place? Or is water intrusion ok in salt water?

Fresh water rot, Lmao.

Not sure why you are such a smart a$$.

Look it up.

fresh water rots wood much faster than salt water.

Do some reading and shut up mr f*ckin know it all

http://forums.iboats.com/forum/general-boating-outdoors-activities/boat-topics-and-questions-not-engine-topics/572465-does-saltwater-preserve-wood

JRider 10-27-2015 07:38 PM

Wood should not touch water period. Wood should be totally encapsulated, not soak wood in a brine like beef jerry to preserve it...if it has water in it, the wood is compromised.

Poor rigging

1MOSES1 10-27-2015 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370407)
Wood should not touch water period. Wood should be totally encapsulated, not soak wood in a brine like beef jerry to preserve it...if it has water in it, the wood is comprised.

Poor rigging

It does so get over it...

Ok mr know it all.

Speedracer29 10-27-2015 07:46 PM

I can tell you this much-
My 10 and 25 year old custom built saltwater boats are leaps and bounds above my prior 8 year old mass produced freshwater boat in the care/maintenance/condition categories. I'll take a saltwater Cigarette over a freshwater Bayliner any day of the week and twice on Sunday!

JRider 10-27-2015 07:47 PM

Wow, just wow. I'm not making friends here but I feel like the Mr obvious show

Not directed at speedracer, he kinda gets it

Wildman_grafix 10-27-2015 07:53 PM

I agree salt $ucks.

Just for that reason I have decided to give up boating, nothing but salt here and I don't want my boat to drop in value anymore.

Now if we could get all those freaking CC's to also figure it out.

1MOSES1 10-27-2015 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370414)
Wow, just wow. I'm not making friends here but I feel like the Mr obvious show

Not directed at speedracer, he gets it

I guess seals never go bad, caulks never dry out, and bolts with torque pre load remain the same over the course of decades. Gotchya...

Speedracer29 10-27-2015 08:01 PM

JRider, if you want to see what 20 years of saltwater use with frequent flushes look like, I have an outboard that is ready for an impeller service....:lolhit: and I'm only about 45 minutes south of you. I promise you can be the one to put a wrench to it and drop the LU so you don't think there's any funny business afoot!

JRider 10-27-2015 08:10 PM

$100 an hour or $150 for saltwater and milage :grinser010:

Drew555 10-27-2015 08:14 PM

Salt just takes a little more care and maintenance . Not a big deal. The problem is that not everyone does it so we should be cautious of salt water boats that's all. You never know. I bought a fresh water boat that had corrosion everywhere including the the drive water inlet from the drive to transom assembly . Not fun to change with the motors in

smokin' gun 10-27-2015 08:18 PM

Every boat I've ever had was used in salt .. You would never know if I didn't tell you .. Now on the other hand I worked in a marina 12 years and we pick up and del boats to about 15 diff lakes for our customers .. I have way more corrosion on fresh water boats than the salt .. .. I own a 38 ft top gun 525 efi freshwater cooled .. First question everyone asks . Ever been used in salt .. Really get over the salt thing !!!!

1MOSES1 10-27-2015 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by smokin' gun (Post 4370431)
Every boat I've ever had was used in salt .. You would never know if I didn't tell you .. Now on the other hand I worked in a marina 12 years and we pick up and del boats to about 15 diff lakes for our customers .. I have way more corrosion on fresh water boats than the salt .. .. I own a 38 ft top gun 525 efi freshwater cooled .. First question everyone asks . Ever been used in salt .. Really get over the salt thing !!!!

Gordon don't waste your time...there boats stay perfectly sealed after 20 years!!! HAHAHAHA pass the pipe!!!

JRider 10-27-2015 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by smokin' gun (Post 4370431)
Every boat I've ever had was used in salt .. You would never know if I didn't tell you .. Now on the other hand I worked in a marina 12 years and we pick up and del boats to about 15 diff lakes for our customers .. I have way more corrosion on fresh water boats than the salt .. .. I own a 38 ft top gun 525 efi freshwater cooled .. First question everyone asks . Ever been used in salt .. Really get over the salt thing !!!!

way more corrosion on fresh water boats? Yeah rite, you may have picked it up from a lake but did it come from a lake? The same fukking water you rinse your salt water motors with? Whatever

jeff32 10-27-2015 08:32 PM

ok so for those who maintain well their salt water boat, how do you exactly clean this up? water soap and oil recipe is good to know, but how do you do it? hose off the entire engine bay then how do you dry all the electrical parts? then wd-40 everywhere? just engines? on electrical? and then everything is oily catching and keeping the dirt?

Drew555 10-27-2015 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4370440)
ok so for those who maintain well their salt water boat, how do you exactly clean this up? water soap and oil recipe is good to know, but how do you do it? hose off the entire engine bay then how do you dry all the electrical parts? then wd-40 everywhere? just engines? on electrical? and then everything is oily catching and keeping the dirt?

Dirt? Where is there dirt that your boating? That's not a air filter on the top of your motor. Just have to coat the motor with fogging oil an then wipe it off once or twice a year. Btw makes it look so shiny and new.

buck35 10-27-2015 09:38 PM

I think the point is up here in the fresh water arctic, we know or learn a very expensive lesson on how to mitigate the effects of winter where a mistake is immediately found most often. I'm sure those that boat in salt have their own cleaning routines as well, but it's a lot harder to see an engine rotting inside out than a cracked block. We are all used to what we're used to.:argue:

smokin' gun 10-28-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370436)
way more corrosion on fresh water boats? Yeah rite, you may have picked it up from a lake but did it come from a lake? The same fukking water you rinse your salt water motors with? Whatever

ya picked it up at the lake ...its a service we do ..we sell boats and ya since day 1 new boat same lake same water never anywhere else .the people don't own trailers . they own camps we del the boats and pickup at end of season ..about 250 boats ..and yes fresh water is just as bad as salt in certain lakes

JRider 10-28-2015 08:28 AM

Uh huh

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370542)
Uh huh

Go be a troll else where.

Dean Ferry 10-28-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4370440)
ok so for those who maintain well their salt water boat, how do you exactly clean this up? water soap and oil recipe is good to know, but how do you do it? hose off the entire engine bay then how do you dry all the electrical parts? then wd-40 everywhere? just engines? on electrical? and then everything is oily catching and keeping the dirt?

Jeff,
My little ritual is:

1. Open engine hatch and with the hose set on a mist, (high pressure) I rinse all the entire engine(s) and bilge, try to stay away from direct spray on the electronics. I always try to do this while the engines are still warm to the touch, helps with evaporation of the fresh water rinse.
2. Let it drip dry, while I'm cleaning the interior, dash/gauges
3. Flush engines for at least 10-12 minutes each, just plain fresh water, bumping the RPM's up to 1,800 -2,000 RPMs for a couple of seconds at time. Just to maximize the water pressure in the engine block/exhaust/intercoolers, etc
4. Wash the outdrives, flush my drive showers, wash the whole transom.
5. Wash the rest of the hull, paying extra attention to all the hardware, (Example: Pull-up cleats are up and washed thoroughly)
6. Grab 1st beer from Tiki bar, ! :)
7. Jump back in cockpit, wipe down all hardware/gauges/interior with clean dry boat towels.
8. Wipe down engines with towels.
9. Get 2nd beer from Tiki bar...:ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:
10. Get a can of WD-40 with red sprayer inserted and spray down everything in the blige, expect the belts, (although some does get on the belts...) Usually use the whole can on (2) engines, and I wipe any over spray on the belts off right away
11. Close engine hatch later when engines completely cool off
12. Get 3rd beer at Tiki bar, and just relax a little at the Tiki bar, usually watching the kids catching fish off the other end of the dock...
12. Next day open up engine hatch and wipe down everything with clean shop towels. Put on cockpit cover or whole boat cover depending on whether or not we are going boating next week.......

Last, If I use the boat ramp, I spray down the under carriage/wheel wells/ of my truck, always done 1st, and the trailer brakes next, and the trailer when washing the hull....

It's definitely a labor of love, if you really want to boat in saltwater, year round....

Canuck B Crazy 10-28-2015 01:11 PM

The problem with both is leaving in or above water. Fresh water moisture from evaporation can create rust problems.

Boater8987 10-28-2015 01:30 PM

I have used this product before. Can wash whole boat with it. Seems to work good as part of salt maintenance program.

http://www.boatersplus.com/salt-away...aign=shopzilla

http://www.salt-away.com/au/store/sa.../injection-kit

SB 10-28-2015 01:43 PM

You'd guys schit how clean alot of the stuff is here that's 20+yrs old and sits in the water from May- end of August.
Outdrives included only if people are actually smart enough to change their anodes once in a while.

I have a few mid 80's boats with original engines that look, run, and etc totally fine that sit in the water too...year...after year...after year....

Ad yeh, original engines.

I guess it's real good fresh water.

Just sayin.

smokin' gun 10-28-2015 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370542)
Uh huh

So I guess I'm full o $hit

JRider 10-28-2015 03:56 PM

Yes

Nate5.0 10-28-2015 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4370440)
ok so for those who maintain well their salt water boat, how do you exactly clean this up? water soap and oil recipe is good to know, but how do you do it? hose off the entire engine bay then how do you dry all the electrical parts? then wd-40 everywhere? just engines? on electrical? and then everything is oily catching and keeping the dirt?


For me I will do a quick wash and flush at the ramps (they have water and I bring a hose).....tow back to storage warehouse.

Once there I will rinse the entire boat down, then hook up one motor at a time, I run each motor for about 10-15 min (even though they are closed cooled) and like Dean I will bump the throttle a touch.....also before I disconnect I taste the water to see if I still have any "salt" taste left or not.

While the motors are going I am also usually soaping down the entire outside top and bottom. Once when the motors are done I will rinse off the boat....however I do not do the transom....I do that buy hand and with a rag as well to make sure I get every nook, hose, line, drive, or whatever and assure it gets wiped, soaped, and cleaned.

From there I will go back to the cockpit and Cabin and do the engines as well. At that point they are warm but not hot. Wash them down, steer clear of the major electronics, and I too use WD40, close the hatch and go back to doing the seats, floors and all that. I have a mini vacuum as well and I vacuum the carpet, clean all counter tops and cup holder, wrap up an lines, jackets or whatever, and store everything neatly.

By that time before I climb down I will hand wipe the excess WD40 on the engines....Last Part is I always at minimum spray wax the boat after every use and hand wax it at times as well. So While I am doing that I run the hose into the wheel area and let the water run over the brakes, hub assy, and all that and wash them with soap too. I make sure every hub gets running water over it for 3min or more.

Sure there is a step or two left out but that is the normal ritual of putting away my boat and prob the part that is the most pain in the ass but has to be done and no one ever wants to help.

Drew555 10-28-2015 04:42 PM

Nate I thought I was the only one that tasted the water:ernaehrung004:

Indy 10-28-2015 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Drew555 (Post 4370690)
Nate I thought I was the only one that tasted the water:ernaehrung004:

ROF... I tasted the water when I flushed the PP, thought maybe I was the only psycho that ever did that!!!! People must have thought I was nuts LOL!!

Nate5.0 10-28-2015 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Drew555 (Post 4370690)
Nate I thought I was the only one that tasted the water:ernaehrung004:

Some of us are just a little OSD I think lol.


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