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Nate5.0 10-28-2015 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4370693)
ROF... I tasted the water when I flushed the PP, thought maybe I was the only psycho that ever did that!!!! People must have thought I was nuts LOL!!

It definitely gets a few looks from people who don't know lol

northernoffshore 10-28-2015 06:14 PM

after a day of boating on lake michigan my boat was sometimes cleaner than when I put it in... down in ft myers it's acid water!!! I drive 20 miles away just to dip it in the river to clean off the salt

jbraun2828 10-28-2015 06:39 PM

Fresh water is more corrosive then fresh water now? It's getting good around here now. I've never seen a boat for sale being advertised as salt water boat for good reason. My boat spent its first couple years in salt and fresh water after that. The boat is now 11 years old, It's taken me 2 years to fix all the damage done by salt the first couple years of its life. Rusty motor mounts, bolts, paint bubbling, corrosion on stainless and alluminum. A lot of this stuff many people might not notice or care about but I do and most in fresh water do. Boats that are in salt water 100 percent of the time are worth less, sorry that's the way it is. Unless you maintain it like dean ferry

Jupiter Sunsation 10-28-2015 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4370727)
Fresh water is more corrosive then fresh water now? It's getting good around here now. I've never seen a boat for sale being advertised as salt water boat for good reason. My boat spent its first couple years in salt and fresh water after that. The boat is now 11 years old, It's taken me 2 years to fix all the damage done by salt the first couple years of its life. Rusty motor mounts, bolts, paint bubbling, corrosion on stainless and alluminum. A lot of this stuff many people might not notice or care about but I do and most in fresh water do. Boats that are in salt water 100 percent of the time are worth less, sorry that's the way it is. Unless you maintain it like dean ferry

So if you sold your boat would you advertise "fresh water only?" :evilb:

My buddy bought the OSO TG back in 2008. He put 300 salt water hours on it and it was as clean as the day he bought it. He had a kid go over the boat after every use, even brought the kid on the Bahamas Poker Run so the boat would be cleaned daily. 300 hours on the original CMI headers and XR drives.

jbraun2828 10-28-2015 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4370729)
So if you sold your boat would you advertise "fresh water only?" :evilb:

My buddy bought the OSO TG back in 2008. He put 300 salt water hours on it and it was as clean as the day he bought it. He had a kid go over the boat after every use, even brought the kid on the Bahamas Poker Run so the boat would be cleaned daily. 300 hours on the original CMI headers and XR drives.

Check my last sentence. There's an exception for every rule but if I listed mine i would say fresh water its last 9 years. I think you know the difference and your buddy's boat I'm sure was just as nice but you have to do the dean ferry maintenance, and I don't think everybody does that

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 07:20 PM

By the sounds of it we should rename the forum from offshoreonly to offshorenever...HAHAHAHA

Nate5.0 10-28-2015 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370745)
By the sounds of it we should rename the forum from offshoreonly to offshorenever...HAHAHAHA

Lakeshoreonly does have a ring to it

JRider 10-28-2015 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370745)
By the sounds of it we should rename the forum from offshoreonly to offshorenever...HAHAHAHA

Obviously you do not know how big of water there is in the North...you are blind and according to you it is okay for boats to have saturated wood.

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370769)
Obviously you do not know how big of water there is in the North...you are blind and according to you it is okay for boats to have saturated wood.

And according to you all boats are dry!! HAHAHA pass the pipe!!! When did I say it was ok?. Not sure why I acknowledge your existence given you don't respond to my comments!!! Haha

Go re read my posts clown.

Powerquest230 10-28-2015 08:23 PM

Damm, this thread is slowing down before it has sucked all of the fun out of boating.

Just find the cleanest boat that fits your requirements and better yet if it is freshwater. The important part is to buy what you like and then enjoy using it as much as possible- if it ain't running it's rusting.

JRider 10-28-2015 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370777)
And according to you all boats are dry!! HAHAHA pass the pipe!!! Never responded to my comments. Not sure why I acknowledge your existence!!! Bahaha

Wow, that was exuberant. It is hard to argue with morons like you hence my lack of response. You are wearing me down and beating me with stupidity. Boats should be dry as far as the structure and I never said that all boats are dry. Wet boats are a nightmare.

jbraun2828 10-28-2015 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370745)
By the sounds of it we should rename the forum from offshoreonly to offshorenever...HAHAHAHA

Not sure if this is directed at me or not, but I'll run with you anytime on "offshore never" Lake Michigan. Earlier in this thread you said nobody could tell if your boat was run in salt, post up some pics of your boat. Engine compartment, transom, trailer. I like cigs and have never seen your boat

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370785)
Wow, that was exuberant. It is hard to argue with morons like you hence my lack of response. You are wearing me down and beating me with stupidity. Boats should be dry as far as the structure and I never said that all boats are dry. Wet boats are a nightmare.

So I guess seals don't go bad, caulk doesn't dry, and bolts never loosen!!! I'd guess more than half the boats on the market have some type of water intrusion. It's a fact of life. I'd be willing to bet your boat has moisture. Go live under a rock. :)

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4370788)
Not sure if this is directed at me or not, but I'll run with you anytime on "offshore never" Lake Michigan. Earlier in this thread you said nobody could tell if your boat was run in salt, post up some pics of your boat. Engine compartment, transom, trailer. I like cigs and have never seen your boat

PM me your email and I will send.

rak rua 10-28-2015 09:17 PM

I'm a salt water boater and have been all my life. Thanks to about half of you guys, I find myself developing thalassaphobia, better known as a fear of salt water. I'm even thinking about eating French fries without salt!

Seriously, all boats need preventative maintenance and if you're in salt water, allow a little bit more cleaning time to keep things looking new. Every time my boat hits the water (it almost never stays in overnight) I know there will be 3 hours of cleaning afterwards.

If you think 100% of salt water boats are not so good then don't buy one. Simple. Personally, I would never overlook a saltwater boat, I've always owned them and with the correct maintenance, I've never had any significant issue that would not have occurred in fresh water.

RR

JRider 10-28-2015 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370789)
So I guess seals don't go bad, caulk doesn't dry, and bolts never loosen!!! I'd guess more than half the boats on the market have some type of water intrusion. It's a fact of life. I'd be willing to bet your boat has moisture. Go live under a rock. :)

Never argued any of that (except that my boat has moisture, because is does not) your garbage was not really worthy of a response...and probably still is not.

JRider 10-28-2015 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370795)
PM me your email and I will send.

Can't post them? Too cheap to pay for a membership?

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370802)
Can't post them? Too cheap to pay for a membership?

Yes

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370799)
Never argued any of that (except that my boat has moisture, because is does not) your garbage was not really worthy of a response...and probably still is not.

keep your blinders on pal!!! ;)

yes garbage, the fact that fresh water rots wood faster than salt which you disputed!!! Gotchya!!!

rak rua 10-28-2015 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370805)
Yes

Nice answer. Short, simple and straight to the point.
LMAO

JRider 10-28-2015 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370806)
keep your blinders on pal!!! ;)

Not your pal and I'm not the blind one.

JRider 10-28-2015 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370806)
keep your blinders on pal!!! ;)

yes garbage, the fact that fresh water rots wood faster than salt which you disputed!!! Gotchya!!!

And an unworthy response to your edited post...never researched it and do not care to own a wet structure boat anyway. And still not your pal.

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370813)
And an unworthy response to your edited post...never researched it and do not care to own a wet structure boat anyway. And still not your pal.

Don't give a sh!t what you are...I know one thing!!! Wrong!!! BAHAHAHA

JRider 10-28-2015 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370814)
Don't give a sh!t what you are...I know one thing!!! Wrong!!! BAHAHAHA

Uncle, you beat me down with jubilant stupidity and ignorance.

northernoffshore 10-28-2015 10:08 PM

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here is a map of the salinity of the oceans.... blue is least ..red/yellow bad

1MOSES1 10-28-2015 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370819)
Uncle, you beat me down with exuberant stupidity and ignorance.

Perfect!!! Stop using the word exuberant sound like a tool. Bahahaha

tommymonza 10-28-2015 11:49 PM

i used to wash my boat in the Spring and give it a good wash in the fall when i lived up in Michigan.

I spent the last 25 years making my living with boats in Florida.. You wash them every night when you get home. or they are filthy the next day because of the salt residue.

Regardless.

We never flushed the motors.because after 10 years we never noticed any difference if they were flushed or not.


The risiers are shot after 2 years the manifolds after 4 . After 4 years the blocks are on the edge. If you use them every day than you will fare better.

Its not necessarily the blocks over all that go bad it is the mating surfaces such as the intakes and the heads.

I have removed raw water cooled 454- 330s with 4000 hours that ran like a Swiss watch after 4 years The mating surfaces were shot..

25 years making a living with this crap I have seen it all.

Jupiter Sunsation 10-29-2015 07:49 AM

I was talking with a buddy yesterday (former owner of 2 Powerplays as well other offshore stuff) and he still lives on the water and has an empty lift. He said for all the hassle of his last 38, he is ready for another go fast but this time it has to be outboards and he loves the new 320 Monte Carlo from Nortech (someone in the area has one on a lift).

You can't beat long warranties and limited problems of OB's! :D

Nate5.0 10-29-2015 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4370897)
I was talking with a buddy yesterday (former owner of 2 Powerplays as well other offshore stuff) and he still lives on the water and has an empty lift. He said for all the hassle of his last 38, he is ready for another go fast but this time it has to be outboards and he loves the new 320 Monte Carlo from Nortech (someone in the area has one on a lift).

You can't beat long warranties and limited problems of OB's! :D

The Monte Carlo and the new AT's are showing there can be a sport boat market with great speed and OB's.

Hope to get a AT 29 in the somewhat near future

Indy 10-29-2015 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4370897)
I was talking with a buddy yesterday (former owner of 2 Powerplays as well other offshore stuff) and he still lives on the water and has an empty lift. He said for all the hassle of his last 38, he is ready for another go fast but this time it has to be outboards and he loves the new 320 Monte Carlo from Nortech (someone in the area has one on a lift).

You can't beat long warranties and limited problems of OB's! :D

Same here, getting too old to crawl around in the bilge. Next one is an outboard boat as much as it kills me, getting older just solves that dilemma though.

ICDEDPPL 10-29-2015 08:38 AM

I thought smoking gun was part of that "east coast salt dealers' syndicate with Sick singer, Kid Apachhe etc All their parts look like they`ve been sitting under water for the last 100 years but "salt doesn`t affect anything?' Ha! good one.

:bong:

JRider 10-29-2015 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4370913)
I thought smoking gun was part of that "east coast salt dealers' syndicate with Sick singer, Kid Apachhe etc All their parts look like they`ve been sitting under water for the last 100 years but "salt doesn`t affect anything?' Ha! good one.

:bong:

Ignorance is bliss :cartman:

1MOSES1 10-29-2015 09:03 AM

for all those that say fresh water is created equal what about:

Ph levels / acidity
chlorine levels
Calcium/mineral hardness
Pollution
Etc

Last time I checked all of those elements impact corrosion and they vary depending on region, rainfall, Inherent mineral deposits, etc.

1MOSES1 10-29-2015 09:04 AM

guess we'll claim ignorance as well here batman!!!! ;)

JRider 10-29-2015 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4370920)
for all those that say fresh water is created equal what about:

Ph levels / acidity
chlorine levels
Calcium/mineral hardness
Pollution
Etc

Last time I checked all of those elements impact corrosion and they vary depending on region, rainfall, Inherent mineral deposits, etc.

Ph levels / acidity..................we filter water our fresh water and drink it, doubt it will hurt my boat and I don't see fish floating
chlorine levels..................I don't run my boat in a pool
Calcium/mineral hardness...................its not a bubble bath
Pollution.................?
Etc................you are still an idiot

1MOSES1 10-29-2015 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370928)
Ph levels / acidity..................we filter water our fresh water and drink it, doubt it will hurt my boat and I don't see fish floating
chlorine levels..................I don't run my boat in a pool
Calcium/mineral hardness...................its not a bubble bath
Pollution.................?
Etc................you are still an idiot

solid answers...not!!!

JRider 10-29-2015 09:31 AM

You are seriously not worth the time, it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. It is going to be a long winter. :kiss:

1MOSES1 10-29-2015 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4370932)
You are seriously not worth the time, it's like arguing with a 5 yr old. It is going to be a long winter. :kiss:

No 2 year old!!! Bahaha

Dean Ferry 10-29-2015 10:23 AM

Winter is going to be great, best time of the year to go boating in the Fl KILLER Salt water! :) Sorry, couldn't help myself...:lolhit:

1MOSES1 10-29-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Dean Ferry (Post 4370950)
Winter is going to be great, best time of the year to go boating in the Fl KILLER Salt water! :) Sorry, couldn't help myself...:lolhit:

You should ask jrider to give you detailed water analysis!!! Supposedly he can do it by look and feel!!! Hahahaha


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