That means your boat is just newer than 2 years old or just introduced to salt. Cause after 2 years dean....well...we all know that boat just turns to sh*t

I would consider buying a boat that came from a saltwater enviroment ( wait, I did ) but I sure wouldn't want to own one there. At the end of the day I'd rather go home and fire up the grillle and have a beer versus having to do all the flush, wash, lube stuff.

And some of us rather boat year round than winterize our boats....different strokes for different folks.

Boating on Christmas has been a tradition the last couple of years and it's oh so nice.

Someone (not on this thread) brought up to all of us freshwater snobs the fact that we are hypocrites in the sense that we turn our noses up to saltwater boats but yet our vehicles are salted-road vehicles. I thought to myself, good point!

I had my new F-350 undercoated here in Fl specifically because of the salt water left on the boat ramps. Some people here thought I was crazy until i asked them if they have seen a car/truck from up north that had been exposed to the Winter road salt....Not so crazy after all....

That is a good point... Never really though about that lol

Too logical for this crowd

My ten year old Avalanche was rusted badly enough that I had no choice but to sell it (while it was still worth something). Washing it about once a week is pretty good, just not feasible to wash a vehicle every day in winter. I buy new vehicles every few years now so I do not have to deal with problems like that. I am not seeing how that is hypocritical, this is reinforcement of what I have been saying in the first place.

Some more 6 year old saltwater engines, that I give the "Dean Ferry" massage to, every time we go out in her...

Seriously? Your comparison is boat/vehicle and want to talk logical. There's no debate our vehicles are exposed to salt but I guess I'm missing your point? My vehicles are necessary tools if you will. I have no choice but to drive them in the winter/salt. I'm well aware and can not debate the negative effects of salt roads, once again, transportation tool not a toy. People store their corvettes for the winter, same concept. My boat on the other hand, I choose where and when it runs. And I can say I've never chosen to run it down a snow/salt covered road. Furthermore, so your saying our vehicles are ruined by the salt, but your boats are immune? I'm jealous, you guys get the best of both worlds. Maybe I missed the point all together, but I can't justify that as an accurate comparison or consider that statement an example of hypocrisy

I wouldn't say it supports anything as you say in this post it isn't feasible to clean your car/truck after every exposer.

Not a real apples to apples comparison really.

My truck gets dunked when launching and I live near the water. Yet like my boat I wash the truck after as well and it gets a bath and wax weekly


Much like.my boat, my truck has no rust.....just need to take care of things and they will take care of you.

if you couldn't tell I'm just posting to post at this point...JRider beat me down with his exuberance!!!

I would agree with it not being an apples to apples comparison, I was not the one who brought it up in the first place. You can wash your truck all you want on the top side, does not matter, it is the undercarriage that takes a beating and it is very difficult to spray everything on the underside. There will always be spots that are missed. I also call BS on waxing your truck weekly unless you are going through a car wash.

I think the delta is that saltwater boaters CAN desalt our boats, yet for your winter vehicles, you really can't.... Maybe I'm wrong, but I know the last time I drove back to my home town, (Potsdam NY, in the Adirondack Mountains), I went to local car wash after about 3 days, and used the HOT car wash to clean the undercarriage of the truck, and the whole truck for the matter. BUT the next day, it was all salted up again. That would be a full time job trying to clean the under carriage of your winter vehicle every time you used it.......

Maybe I can drive a point home if I add a few more exclamation points!!! Sorry I got under your skin!!!
:kiss:

I do it myself...I am off ever Thursday and Friday and get bored so I take it to the wash and knock it out. When it gets cold (Florida standards) do I maybe miss a week or so....of course but I do wash and polish her every week if it's nice out.

Also I rinse the underside. I have never had a rust issue in this or any other truck I have owned. So I must be doing something right.

I am not knocking you or most of the up north crowd but it completely amuses me how afraid of salt some of these "offshore enthusiasts " are.

Yes it takes work when you are donte using to clean them. God forbid we put some time into these not so cheap toys we own.

Thanks grammar police!!!! Bahaha I clearly don't let anyone on here get under my skin. I could give two turds hahaha. Go examine some more water by look and feel!!!

Holy Sh!t captain obvious!!! Hahaha

You have more time than me! There is a boat that I am looking at in New Orleans right now that the owner said has been ran in brackish water. Which is true judging by the poker runs he has been on but those poker runs go through salt as well so he failed to leave that part out. From the limited number of saltwater boats I have been in they are not on par with freshwater boats of the same age. I am not saying they do not exist. I am afraid of flying down to New Orleans for a big $150k disappointment.

Moses, if I was not under your skin you would not be posting at this point. And that was somewhat sincere apology. At this point your are attempting to get the last word in, the floor is yours.

:bunnydance:

Is he willing to maybe grab a paper with a current date and take a few crucial area pics? I can completely understand someone from up north having some worries, myself personally I would do all I could to settle their mind and show them my boat is as advertised make sure they are not wasting their money and time on a trip.


Also yes...I have wayyyy too much free time. It's wax the truck or hit the bar.....sometimes both lol

Do yourself a favor, don't buy a salt boat. The differences are not all visible.

[QUOTE=ajfisher;4371052]Do yourself a favor, don't buy a salt boat. The differences are not all visible.[/QUOTE


Well, the same can be said for a freshwater boat from Michigan, that wasn't "Winterized" properly, and there could be cracks in the blocks from them getting frozen, and that is not visible, until you run the boat, and I don't mean running on the hose either.

I'm depressed. Based on overall weight, I have approximately the same percentage of salt in my body as there is salt in the oceans. I am now afraid that because of the salt in my body, if I make contact with my boat it will cause the boat to corrode.

Maybe I should get a sacrificial anode fitted to my body so as to isolate the inherent corrosion problems to one area rather than spread them to my boat. Maybe I'll sell the boat or donate it to a local salt recycling plant and have it with my French fries.

RR

Our bodies are salt batteries. Without salt we can't send electrical pulses and we die. Not to mention French fries taste like ass without salt

[QUOTE=Dean Ferry;4371056]A block is typically obvious to find, even on a hose. Just look in the bilge and you will see water spraying. The internal parts that concern me on a salt water boat are innercoolers and aluminum heads. How can the condition possibly be known?

double post

Could you pull the thermostat or intercooler line and use an inspection camera to look inside?
My limited knowledge of aluminum oxide tells me it clings to itself pretty good and forms a strong barrier quickly, but on an iron block with aluminum heads I'd be worried about galvanic corrosion, and that's waaaay out of my wheelhouse.

Freakin hysterical...Thanks, I needed a really good laugh...:ernaehrung004:

Chris

[QUOTE=JRider;4371223]Not all, I've seen a block freeze on a friend's boat in N. Dakota, that didn't show up on the Spring De-winterize run on the hose activity. But 2 weeks later after he launched, running/idleing for 5-10 minutes, he got oil pressure problem and a chocolate milkshake in the oil pan......

Get a zinc cock ring

And on our boats that have aluminum heads, (2 x 600 SCi's) they are freshwater cooled. All other engines, (1 680HP 572", and 2 x 720HP Whipple'd 500 EFI's Victory Mainre engines) they are all Merc racing iron heads.

Buy reading this thread, I now most certainly know who not to take any advise from. WOW:bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:

"BY" reading your post, I know who not to ask for grammar lessons! WOW! Haha just kidding.

Hey JRider no hard feelings, I think we are saying the same thing I was just giving you a hard time. Salt obviously causes corrosion, not sure why there is a dispute.

Do recognize fresh water has its cons including rot. Like it or not boats do get wet. Some don't manifest to be an issue however some do (3-5 years), even from factory. Salt water boats do rot but take much much longer (20-30 years)

Any way this has been an eventful thread!!! Let's keep it up!!!

so you are saying a boat in fresh water with a water leak issue will rot in 3-5 years but that same boat in salt water would rot in 20-30 years??

Yes, generally speaking. Obviously there are instances where boats rot in salt water as fast as fresh. Scientifically speaking the organisms within fresh water that destroy the wood are not found in salt water (so I read).

The most rotted boats I've seen, wood wise have been fresh water boats. But I love it when a 15 year old cigarette or outerlimits is advertised as "freshwater only" well what about when they sea trailed it new? Cuz I know it was in salt then!

My new truck came from Texas and I don`t care how much my wife begs to use it when she feels she needs 4 wheel drive.. I will stick her in her front wheel drive $hitbox and send her on her way cause I`m a SALT SNOB!!

I do not care if a boat is wet or rotten...I wont ever buy one, been there done that and never again. I just finished repairing one, that is why I said my boat is dry...I have sample drilled about every piece of wood in the boat. The salt water wood does not rot is an invalid argument and does not work for me. If any boat structure is wet, it is compromised, even salt water boats can get fresh water wet when neglected, its called rain. That water that soaks interiors and sits in the bilge.

Most boats get wet from poor rigging...even right from the factory. Every screw that is put in a boat should be sealed, every hole in the boat, sealed...many are not or done poorly. Look at a DCB or Cig vs lets say a baja, the rigging is night and day.

My short answers to your questions about acid, chlorine, polution, and minerals were better than you think.
Ph levels / acidity..................we filter water our fresh water and drink it, doubt it will hurt my boat and I don't see fish floating PH level is really not a problem here an acidic lake will die and we seriously do drink water out of our lakes, even lake erie which was one of the most poluted lakes at one time, I really do not see many corrosion issues here

chlorine levels..................I don't run my boat in a poo lI am not sure who has ever boated in chlorine with the excepttion of eliminators test pool

Calcium/mineral hardness...................its not a bubble bath all water is going to have minerals in it and besides the white residue on my pipes I cant see how it affects anything

Pollution.................? We just do not seem to have this problem anymore

Etc................you are still an idiot was pushing your buttons

lol.. If that's your way of maintenance buddy... I would never by a FW boat from you. And like some said,, you have no clue.
I been in FW and SW. Both needs appropriate care. Once a year of washing the bilge in FW is not it. The biggest problem in FW boats that owners don't think what needs to be done. Thus the problems. Not tor mention the negative issues with frost. etc. I know many of marinas and owners in W and the winterization is not adequate. PERIOD.