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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4373241)
Thanks for the update.......now I'll get a Pepsi tomorrow!
Beside it wouldn't look as good if it read "Former World Champ" Stay with the Coke |
When I was racing I swore that if we ever won a World title that I was going to get a tattoo on my shoulder to commemorate the accomplishment.
I assure you that if someone said something years later like "you don't race anymore you should remove that tattoo" I would have told that person to STFU. |
Originally Posted by Cash Bar
(Post 4373256)
When I was racing I swore that if we ever won a World title that I was going to get a tattoo on my shoulder to commemorate the accomplishment.
I assure you that if someone said something years later like "you don't race anymore you should remove that tattoo" I would have told that person to STFU. |
Originally Posted by JRider
(Post 4373187)
There, I fixed it...and that is meant as a compliment somehow!
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http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/-s8AAMXQw8hRaGaH/$T2eC16h,!zcE9s4g4wQgBR,G,GtgQQ~~60_57.JPG?set_id= 880000500FF
Get some of these |
All those Cigarette logo's splattered all over the boat reminds me of some race cars from the 60's with STP decals everywhere. Sometimes less is more.
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Originally Posted by mcprodesign
(Post 4373342)
That's like saying. All of my kids should get a tatoo because I did something right?
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Originally Posted by buck35
(Post 4373232)
Its funny, the whole cig thing. I live out west so ive never actually even seen one , but the fanatasisim kind of reminds me of the vdub and harley guys. The following is huge so obviously they are great boats, that being said , do they really need 25 logos on the boat to tell you they are numero uno. :party-smiley-004:
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That logo is like the Nike swish of boating. Everybody knows it and certainly Cigarette utilizes it quite well. They know branding, nobody can deny that. To me there are 2 logos that I think of when thinking of offshore boats, the Cig oval and the Fountain lightning bolt bracelet thingie. Fountain wasn't shy about plastering that logo all over their boats either.
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Originally Posted by donzi matt
(Post 4373579)
That logo is like the Nike swish of boating. Everybody knows it and certainly Cigarette utilizes it quite well. They know branding, nobody can deny that. To me there are 2 logos that I think of when thinking of offshore boats, the Cig oval and the Fountain lightning bolt bracelet thingie. Fountain wasn't shy about plastering that logo all over their boats either.
That said, I think Cigarette are right to maintain the logo the same way it has been for decades. It's smart business and anyone who buys a new Cig and then feels disappointed when they realize their boat is not the current title holder is a pin-head and deserves to be disappointed! RR |
I will agree that enough is enough, you don't need to have fifty logo's or Cigarette writing on a single boat, it becomes gaudy and over stated
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I think people are reading way too much into this lol
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
(Post 4372888)
Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away, there were real offshore racers that actually raced offshore..........
And so the story begins. The original races were from point to point, like Miami to Nassau, or Cowes to Torquay or Long Beach to San Francisco. Think in the same era of the fins on cars, late 50's early 60's. Most of the boats of that period were pretty un-seaworthy at any kind of speed, But the racers took them over the horizon and the legends grew, Someone sank, another boat caught fire, another crew was stranded all night on a remote Bahamas island. These races were getting a lot of attention in the press and with the boating public, so the manufacturers decided to try their hand at making boats and engines that could survive and thrive in real open ocean crossings. It was also the era of fiberglass. No longer dependent on wood for the construction of boats anymore, some builders reached out to embrace the new technology and the glass boat was born and baptized in a fire storm of offshore racing. A giant of a man was wining everything, Sam Griffith. He won the Miami to Nassau race so many times they were going to name it after him. He drove the first deep vee hull with Richard Bertram to a victory that was hours faster than the previous record. Sam was WWII vet who was a full bird Colonel and survived a parachute drop where the parachute didn't open. He was the man behind the Miami to Palm Beach boat race up the Intracoastal. He drove a 3 point hydro in that race. Time marched on and Sam was diagnosed with cancer and passed on in the early 70;s. Everyone wanted to honor him, so John Crouse, the PR man and boating writer of the time, created a World Championship with the winner getting the title of World Champion and winning the Sam Griffith award. He was also granted the right to use the number 1 on his boat for the following racing season. BUT.....you had to race all over the world to win enough points to win the title. You took your little boat and raced against other racers in Europe and South America and the Bahamas and both sides of the USA and the Great Lakes too. Yes, it did cost a lot of money to do this, but many people stepped up to the plate and participated. When you see the photo of Don Aronow flying his 32 foot Cary called The Cigarette. That photo was taken in the Bahamas 500 miles race. Don won the World Championship for 1969 that year. How did he do it? To start, he had 4 boats made up and he took three of them and placed them at various spots around the world, so he could just fly to the next race. One boat for the east coast of the USA and the Bahamas, one boat for the West Coast and the races into Mexico and third boat placed in Europe with a land team consisting of Knocky House and Don's son Michael, who would travel all over Europe with the boat and have it ready when Don arrived for the next race.The fourth boat stayed in Florida as a spare in case one of the other boats was destroyed in a race. That lasted until the mid 70's's when Bob Nordskog thought it would be better if each country qualified their top drivers and send them to the final race to be held at the end of each year, at a new location. As he was APBA President, he could pull it off. The first WC race was in 1977 in Key West and Betty Cook won it, the 1978 race was held in Argentina and Francesco Cosentino, an Italian won that. In 1979 the race was held in Venice, Italy and Betty Cook won again and ..... the 1980 the race went to Australia and was won by Michel Menard. A few years later the sport included Super Boats to replace Open Class. Super Boats were allowed to have up to 4 engines. Sweet kiss goodbye to everyone.... as only the very rich could afford these boats and the top class dropped down from maybe 25 or 30 Open boats racing for the top prize..... to maybe 3 or 4 of the new Super Boats. But even though there was no competition and the rules even allowed boats to compete at the last race of the year even if they had not raced anywhere else all year......the winners still wanted to be called WORLD CHAMPIONS. So there you have the story of WORLD CHAMPION. That is how the title started and was fought for all over the world, but it evolved to a shadow of the sport .......that now operated on harbors and small lakes and rivers. It is like comparing a big game hunt in Africa, to shooting for the stuffed animal at a carnival in your hometown. Both events use guns, but one is a bit more challenging than the other. Best post I've read in a while! Thank you!!! I love reading about all the history of this sport and the stories. Unfortunately this story applies in some form or another to most forms of racing these days.... |
Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 4373664)
I think people are reading way too much into this lol
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Originally Posted by 33outlawsst
(Post 4373640)
I will agree that enough is enough, you don't need to have fifty logo's or Cigarette writing on a single boat, it becomes gaudy and over stated
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What a bout a new logo.... Like
"the Original Cigarette" Or Cigarette. The original or something like that . The name is like Bondo! A well used name to describe a certain object.. Like Vise grip.. It should be respected. But world champion on every boat is ... But it's there brand to do whatever they want. I just like my fountains. They have been good boats.. More like a thoroughbred as a cig is like a warm-blood. |
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So there was 4 of the 32 Carys built identical.
One was owned by the Carr brothers and destroyed . What became of the other 3 Charlie has a 32 he is restoring is that one of the 4 ? |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4373846)
When did Cig switch to the "over logo" idea? They didn't always have 49 logos on every boat
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Originally Posted by J-Bonz
(Post 4373873)
I will guess around 2003 is when I thought it went into full affect...
To be fair, Sunsation has been known to get carried away with logos/ CNC parts/ bling and even sayings like "the race never stops".......I would order the "decal delete option" on any new build from any boat builder. |
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Originally Posted by J-Bonz
(Post 4373873)
I will guess around 2003 is when I thought it went into full affect...
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Originally Posted by Cash Bar
(Post 4373936)
Cig may have 100 small/medium logos but they still don't add up to this.
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4373954)
Yeah but @ 144 it is "one fast billboard!" :eek:
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so hot.... haha
Originally Posted by mcprodesign
(Post 4373842)
The only thing I can think of is your avatar pic. I am for sure looking far into that !
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Fountains beak is a heckuva brand or trademark. Instantly recognizable even to casual boat fans, probably more so than cigarette.
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If you don't like the logos, just order one without.
I'm sure if you asked Cig to build you a boat with ZERO logos but the everything else as per specs, they would oblige. I'm also sure it would get recognized the day it first sees water and would probably end up on OSO the following day making it instantly famous and consequently, even more recognizable than one with a plethora of logos!! We could start a new thread for the American winter........ 'Don't have an ego, don't need a logo 'cos I've got mojo.' RR |
Originally Posted by fastdonzi
(Post 4372545)
In Key West they should Crown the "Key West Champion" since a Great Number of the Boats there didn't race all year, Anywhere... Nothing World about it.. Unless maybe they Banged a French Whore while down there...
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Originally Posted by cd680
(Post 4372437)
Wait let's get back to this district 6 champ thing??? What yr was this at and what class????
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Originally Posted by class6
(Post 4400325)
I didn't see Drew555 answer yet. I was more interested in this that the battle over Logo use, Or I should say over use
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