No one is saying they sit deeper. Anything that is submerged might as well be invisible. If it's invisible and it sits back further there is higher risk of being hit. That's my simple reasoning. I'm done beating a dead horse

If anyone feels unsafe swimming around their arnesons I would be more than happy to trade them for my bravos!

I have read previously on OSO some 38' Hustler's are a handful to drive from the upper 80's to 105 mph, was it the boat? Or is it the driver? The Hustler's that raced F-2 (500 carb motors) back in the day looked pretty dam good to me, but that was an 82 mph 85 mph boat, mostly. I have am neutral, I like the 388, I think with the Arneson drives it would be a great boat to own for a hot-rodder, I read earlier posts regarding children and sharp propellers. In my college days my fraternity brother cut the top of his foot severely on the propeller on my Volvo 280 outdrive attached to my 18' Donzi, sh*t happens.

Back to handling aspect of the hull, I had read where Black Cloud ran close to 140 mph, how did that boat handle at 110 mph, 120 mph, 130 mph, 140 mph, the same ? Or did it handle differently depending at different speed ranges ? Meaning is there an area between 90 mph to 100 mph that is a problem in regards to handling but after 100 mph all is good?

Teach me...

And what is a thread without pictures, so here ya go.

Would you rather talk about cams and lob..... becouse we can that hasn't been talked about in a while.

I looking for info like this as well... which started the thread. I also have heard of some handling issues. Some say above 85. Some say 95. Some over 100. Maybe depends on the year and rigging? I talked to a guy that just sold his trip 500 388. He said 105ish and not a single handling issue. Maybe props as well. I've heard on bravo boats the p5x spinning out are the ticket at factory height. And some say extension boxes are no help. Basically it's hard to make heads or tails of th info and thought the owners could chime in with their experiences

Yes there is a thread discussing handling problems as speeds approach 100 and what was done about it. Don't quote me on it but If I recall correctly it was designed to be a 85 mph hull and needed some mods to work properly at higher speeds. The changes made to the bottom to make it more stable at higher speeds compromised the stringers so the factory made some changes and everyone lived happily ever after (except the people that bought the early ones and wanted to do 100 I guess).

Black cloud is local to me and the bottom was reworked by the factory to make it stable at speeds above 100mph you can say all the bad things about the arnesons all you want but ,with me before the arnesons i was good for two busted gear sets a year since i added the kits all i add now is gas and oil

You Hustler guys should be on top of this. Rims, strake changes, shiny parts.

This thread is like Tims threads, we`re getting nowhere!