View Poll Results: cigarette or apache?
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43.00%
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464
57.00%
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cigarette or apache?
08-19-2003 | 07:01 PM
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03-14-2005 | 09:59 PM
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Re: cigarette or apache?
Well if money was not an issue, I would love to restore an old Apache with good power, I would have to contract most of the work out, I have no talent in this area.
But in reality, if I was to up grade to one or the other now it would be a Cig TIGER all the way, RIDE, not speed.
If I could upgrade to my choice, 38ZR.
Votes sure have turned around, but lets be real, how many could make the leap, so you could have Jet Ski owners voting!
Bryan Tuvell
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But in reality, if I was to up grade to one or the other now it would be a Cig TIGER all the way, RIDE, not speed.
If I could upgrade to my choice, 38ZR.
Votes sure have turned around, but lets be real, how many could make the leap, so you could have Jet Ski owners voting!
Bryan Tuvell
DONZI 33 ZX
Last edited by BryanTuvell; 03-14-2005 at 10:02 PM.
03-15-2005 | 08:35 AM
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Re: cigarette or apache?
Sold both new from Everglades Marina from 1987 to 1993.
The Apache customer didn't have to be sold on anything. Before he walked in he knew he was going to spend some serious money for exactly what he wanted. Back then Apache Powerboats was in Hollywood and could build 12 41's and 6 47's per year.
These ordered boats were very individualized which hurt their resale somewhat. An Apache guy wanted it HIS way.
The Cigarette guy didn't want to wait for the special order and many times was a repeat customer for a Cigarette. Many first time buyers wanted a Cigarette because they constantly had heard the comparisons to a Cigarette and felt that it must be the best. Also back then a Cigarette was less expensive than the Apache.
The fact that the name "Cigarette" has become the generic term for a high performance boat doesn't hurt the resale either.
(Just some facts from ancient history).
The Apache customer didn't have to be sold on anything. Before he walked in he knew he was going to spend some serious money for exactly what he wanted. Back then Apache Powerboats was in Hollywood and could build 12 41's and 6 47's per year.
These ordered boats were very individualized which hurt their resale somewhat. An Apache guy wanted it HIS way.
The Cigarette guy didn't want to wait for the special order and many times was a repeat customer for a Cigarette. Many first time buyers wanted a Cigarette because they constantly had heard the comparisons to a Cigarette and felt that it must be the best. Also back then a Cigarette was less expensive than the Apache.
The fact that the name "Cigarette" has become the generic term for a high performance boat doesn't hurt the resale either.
(Just some facts from ancient history).
03-15-2005 | 09:39 AM
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Re: cigarette or apache?
Who can tell me what year Apache last won a championship?[/QUOTE]
It was the probably the last time there was a REAL offshore powerboat race
It was the probably the last time there was a REAL offshore powerboat race
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03-15-2005 | 09:48 AM
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Re: cigarette or apache?
I remember when the Miami race left Government Cut and checkpoint one was near the concrete ship in South Bimini! 42 miles of open ocean crossing the Gulfstream. You really needed a navigator in those days.
Checkpoint 3 was in West Palm Beach! Then we would turn South back to Miami, turn-around and go back to WPB and then back to Miami.
178 miles crossing the Gulfstream twice. Those were the days. GPS hadn't yet been invented.
My back hurts just remembering. "FlapJack" was a 1979 38' Bertram in Kevlar that Howard Quam and I pushed to the max whenever we could.
I love the smell of Av-gas in the morning...
Checkpoint 3 was in West Palm Beach! Then we would turn South back to Miami, turn-around and go back to WPB and then back to Miami.
178 miles crossing the Gulfstream twice. Those were the days. GPS hadn't yet been invented.
My back hurts just remembering. "FlapJack" was a 1979 38' Bertram in Kevlar that Howard Quam and I pushed to the max whenever we could.
I love the smell of Av-gas in the morning...
