Oh yeah, whoever is looking for a good buy (relatively speaking in today's market,,that is), check out Concept. They have a lot of value and a really nice boat for the $$.

Concept has a small bean so they move a bit at speed in anything rough. Great boats but not really on the same level as Statement, Nor-Tech, Sunny, MTI, and etc.

You can get bolters (2 rows actually) if you like on a sport CC along with a lot of other seating.

I don't think it's frustrating at all, nor has anything changed. The boats that are priced fairly and are clean sell, and the boats that people have the "see what they can get" prices just sit. Lots of propaganda about a supply shortage, but theirs plenty of boats out their. The bottom line is that a 20 year old boat is just that, a 20 year old boat

Inventory is certainly lower in the classifieds. But yes, the good ones get snapped up quickly.

about a year ago there were 58 cigs for sale now 34............the 87 Top Gun in Tulsa looks like a great project to finish, pretty sure I saw that boat when I was in Broken arrow.

so why haven't you found one then??

so many guys reply to for sale adds commenting how it will never sell its way overpriced ,,but yet a week or two later a guy post a picture of his new boat,,and its the boat that others said it will never sell..LOL

bottom line is you get what you pay for,, the last 3-4 boats I sold I got top dollar for them and I did not advertise them,so dont kid yourself there are plenty of people out there willing to pay asking price for the right boat,and yes even a 20 year old boat.

well I will give you my opinion why Sunsation stopped making performance boats,and I am sure I will get called out on it from people the like Sunsations but thats fine.

I dont think Sunsation was taking seriously as a performace boat. they tried with the F4,,also the 36,but I dont think they did that well because the pricing was right there with other well known performance manufactures ,so they tried the center console thing and it seems like it was the right move for them,
hey what ever works right?

Kudos to Sunsation for recognizing the current trends and for accepting reality. I have no experience with the brand, and have never seen one in New England. Manufacturers with a devoted following like Cigarette, Donzi, Formula, Outer Limits, Nor-Tech, Fountain, Skater, and other iconic brands have generally proven themselves at one time or another on the race course.This adds a perception of quality and credibility (and certainly some cachet) to the product. Much less pressure for validation with a C/C,and wider appeal. Makes sense from a business perspective. Now if they start racing these "fish boats" it will be a whole different matter! I can see the classes now: Best neon light show, Loudest stereo, Best fish well, Most possible seating variations...:)

I never comment about a boat being overpriced, the seller should get whatever he can, and I've never low balled anybody. And I haven't picked one yet not because of the price, but because I'm 56 and this will probably be my last boat, so I'm just taking my time. And I know this site caters to the real high end stuff like cigs, and those are awesome boats that have a separate market. But if you take stock boats like fountains, checkmates, bajas, etc, I don't believe they should be compared in price to the high end boats like cigs and apaches. That's why I'm seeing alot of Donzi's, Baja's, and fountains sitting

as far as their being a shift in the market because of new boat prices, supply of used boats, etc etc etc, I've watched the collector car market go through that and crash, the housing market go through that and crash, and even baseball and pokeman cards go through that and crash.

actually, there was one boat I spotted at the beginning of my search that I said was overpriced, and It's still sitting