Fountain vs Outer L racing
10-15-2017 | 08:30 AM
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there is no argument here.
If you want to argue, it won't be with me on a forum page. I simply stated facts.
Stock 42 lightning boats with 1075's typically from the factory with standard setup would come with a performance report in 125 mph range.
Your own video you posted 3rd one showed the same thing.
The stock poker run 42 1075 that was at performance apparently ran what I posted.
My post you quoted was accurate as well. If one boat runs xxx and someone did work on the boat then that does not mean all the same models will run that. Using that boat as a normal would not be accurate.
On a side note someone posted a quote that the poker run boat went 10 mph faster by adding 75 hp per motor.
I'm not saying the boat doesn't go that fast, I'd assume it's documented and it does go that fast. But to believe adding 150 hp total to a boat and it will go 10 mph faster... either more hp than that was added or the setup was changed.
150 hp total does not make any boat go 10 mph faster. There is physics involved and it will effect all boats no matter fountain, ol, skater, mti,
Obviously that boat is a good runner.
If you want to argue, it won't be with me on a forum page. I simply stated facts.
Stock 42 lightning boats with 1075's typically from the factory with standard setup would come with a performance report in 125 mph range.
Your own video you posted 3rd one showed the same thing.
The stock poker run 42 1075 that was at performance apparently ran what I posted.
My post you quoted was accurate as well. If one boat runs xxx and someone did work on the boat then that does not mean all the same models will run that. Using that boat as a normal would not be accurate.
On a side note someone posted a quote that the poker run boat went 10 mph faster by adding 75 hp per motor.
I'm not saying the boat doesn't go that fast, I'd assume it's documented and it does go that fast. But to believe adding 150 hp total to a boat and it will go 10 mph faster... either more hp than that was added or the setup was changed.
150 hp total does not make any boat go 10 mph faster. There is physics involved and it will effect all boats no matter fountain, ol, skater, mti,
Obviously that boat is a good runner.
The speeds are also the best the boat has seen under perfect conditions . My boat has not been modified and I doubt you will find anyone that has more time dialing in their boat than I do with this fountain .You
have no idea what gear ratio , props, drive height I run in the boat , so to make a comment of doubt without any knowledge is insulting to me.
On another note there is NO rivalry between me and OL. I am personal friends with Joe Sgro. The video of him cutting in front of me looks worse than it really was . Joe and I spoke before the run and agreed to run all the way at 100-110 mph . We BOTH had new drivers in the boat and neither of us felt comfortable going faster. I saw the red makers on the right and told my driver that joe would be moving over , I was already pulling off the throttles to allow him to move over.
Although I appreciate the nice words about my boat I don't want it involved in a pissing match of cheerleaders.
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10-15-2017 | 11:55 AM
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Back to racing guy's. What HP are these race boats making in Super Boat spec class. Do you think they are equal? As spectators watching these boats race what do you all see different? I see the OL looks loser and chine walks more Than the Fountains. Even after just one lap it looks like the Fountains have MPH (2-5)? on the OL yet very stable. It maybe closer than I think. Sometimes at the start of a race on the first lap you know if you have a chance. At some point if you are not there you slip into less than 100% of what you are capable of and it looks like you are really getting beat bad. Not saying this is the case.
10-15-2017 | 01:07 PM
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http://superboat.com/wp-content/uplo...IALRESULTS.pdf
The full results are right here, every lap speed. As you can see the Fountain won by 1:14. That in Racing is called not even close. Like Typhoon said in 1st post- it’s not even close. I mean that’s almost enough time to go have a drink before the other boat finishes. And based off the times, the Fountain was darn near a whole half lap ahead of the OL
I Think the tittle of this thread says it all- Outer L Racing... we all know what the L stands for. Lose
The full results are right here, every lap speed. As you can see the Fountain won by 1:14. That in Racing is called not even close. Like Typhoon said in 1st post- it’s not even close. I mean that’s almost enough time to go have a drink before the other boat finishes. And based off the times, the Fountain was darn near a whole half lap ahead of the OL
I Think the tittle of this thread says it all- Outer L Racing... we all know what the L stands for. Lose
10-15-2017 | 09:17 PM
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From: St.Peters,Mo/5mm LOTO/LEOPA
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they are closer to 850 hp. 572 ci .740 lift 7000 rpm
The pleasure outerlimits are pretty boats. But the race boats are the most ill handling chine walking boats I have ever seen!
The pleasure outerlimits are pretty boats. But the race boats are the most ill handling chine walking boats I have ever seen!
10-16-2017 | 12:09 AM
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I am getting out of this thread because one guy needs to take items personally, change wording around in his head. Trying to drag me into a bunch of Pissing matches. In one of his PM's he sent me he calls it being competitive... I call it something else.
He's gone to the point of sending me a few PM messages calling me every 4 letter word you can think of because he loves fountain (his own words) and apparently in his mind nothing any different from what he believes should be said?
Also I'm a bunch of 4 letter words because earlier this summer I asked a question on the forum and he PM'd me offering me to call him but this was after I already had already dealt with it and I didnt respond to him so now he's apparently got a real thing against me. (Sorry bud get over it)
I consistently have said the 42 fountains have been winning on the races for years with years of dialing them in. No dig on Fountain, giving the racers and boats credit for doing so, I believe that was the original question on this thread.
Somehow the thread progressed to where I feel very few people go to a race and say that fountain won on Sunday I should go order one on Monday and I voiced my opinion that more people go to a poker run and see how a boat ran and looked and decided to buy a boat from that experience. This particular person once again disagreed and sent me another pissed off PM (are you kidding me?).
Then along the way the question turned to all out speed, I then pointed out the speed of pleasure boats in comparison OL vs Fountain. Once again no dig on fountain, I just presented the facts of how the OL pleasure boat speeds run vs the fountain pleasure boats. This person again gets angry with me. (Bud I pray you can get over your anger and grudge against me soon)
I'm not into the Pissing Match that some like to do on here and I dont care to be involved in it so I will lay it out one more time. Other than that Precision you can go start a pissing match with someone else (or be competitive as you call it in your pleasant PM's). The thread had good discussion going for awhile then...
Fountain powerboats have been winning on the race course
Fountain has built some good running 42 poker runs that people have spent alot of time fine tuning them especially Billy's.
The OL SV or SL boats in the pleasure versions (non carbon/ epoxy or Carbon) are running 10-15 mph faster from the factory with comparable engines over the fountain lightning models, as far as poker run versions I dont know enough about to speak accurately.
One last thing for this one particular person/Hater. You posted this. Next out of his mouth will be his OL Cat is just flat out better than a Skater! Just flat out pathetic and embarrassing!
1. You put words in my mouth, I dont believe I ever said my Cat is better than a Skater. That is not something I likely would say or post.
2. You know nothing about my Cat. If you did you would definitely not be talking crap about it honestly. your comments about something you know nothing about are embarrassing.
3. But if your going to speak so boldly? How would you like to compare this 46 skater to my 46 OL Cat? Do you want to do a acceleration drag race? Do you want to do a top speed run? Do you want to run it in the rough?
I will gladly take you up on any and all of those items you just let me know when your ready to bring one with 1350's.
There are a number of the big name cat guys/racers/riggers (some of which are skater guys, some mti guys, some mystic guys) who have been in my boat or driven it. I doubt any of them will have 1 bad thing to say about my boat in acceleration or speed or handling.
My Cat is Bad Ass and I'm not afraid to see it run against any cat in similar size and power, If you wanna try and prove its not, give it a shot or shut it.
I'm out
He's gone to the point of sending me a few PM messages calling me every 4 letter word you can think of because he loves fountain (his own words) and apparently in his mind nothing any different from what he believes should be said?
Also I'm a bunch of 4 letter words because earlier this summer I asked a question on the forum and he PM'd me offering me to call him but this was after I already had already dealt with it and I didnt respond to him so now he's apparently got a real thing against me. (Sorry bud get over it)
I consistently have said the 42 fountains have been winning on the races for years with years of dialing them in. No dig on Fountain, giving the racers and boats credit for doing so, I believe that was the original question on this thread.
Somehow the thread progressed to where I feel very few people go to a race and say that fountain won on Sunday I should go order one on Monday and I voiced my opinion that more people go to a poker run and see how a boat ran and looked and decided to buy a boat from that experience. This particular person once again disagreed and sent me another pissed off PM (are you kidding me?).
Then along the way the question turned to all out speed, I then pointed out the speed of pleasure boats in comparison OL vs Fountain. Once again no dig on fountain, I just presented the facts of how the OL pleasure boat speeds run vs the fountain pleasure boats. This person again gets angry with me. (Bud I pray you can get over your anger and grudge against me soon)
I'm not into the Pissing Match that some like to do on here and I dont care to be involved in it so I will lay it out one more time. Other than that Precision you can go start a pissing match with someone else (or be competitive as you call it in your pleasant PM's). The thread had good discussion going for awhile then...
Fountain powerboats have been winning on the race course
Fountain has built some good running 42 poker runs that people have spent alot of time fine tuning them especially Billy's.
The OL SV or SL boats in the pleasure versions (non carbon/ epoxy or Carbon) are running 10-15 mph faster from the factory with comparable engines over the fountain lightning models, as far as poker run versions I dont know enough about to speak accurately.
One last thing for this one particular person/Hater. You posted this. Next out of his mouth will be his OL Cat is just flat out better than a Skater! Just flat out pathetic and embarrassing!
1. You put words in my mouth, I dont believe I ever said my Cat is better than a Skater. That is not something I likely would say or post.
2. You know nothing about my Cat. If you did you would definitely not be talking crap about it honestly. your comments about something you know nothing about are embarrassing.
3. But if your going to speak so boldly? How would you like to compare this 46 skater to my 46 OL Cat? Do you want to do a acceleration drag race? Do you want to do a top speed run? Do you want to run it in the rough?
I will gladly take you up on any and all of those items you just let me know when your ready to bring one with 1350's.
There are a number of the big name cat guys/racers/riggers (some of which are skater guys, some mti guys, some mystic guys) who have been in my boat or driven it. I doubt any of them will have 1 bad thing to say about my boat in acceleration or speed or handling.
My Cat is Bad Ass and I'm not afraid to see it run against any cat in similar size and power, If you wanna try and prove its not, give it a shot or shut it.
I'm out
10-16-2017 | 08:03 AM
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Yes please go to your safe space. Others on here have called you out for being pathetic yourself. Your original response to this thread was you assumed someone was starting a fight. Do your self a favor and learn what words of expression are. They aren’t putting words in ones mouth, big difference. I’ll send you tissues. I never took anything personally or have a anger problem with you. I think you are a piece of work tho. Just like the other guy said, you don’t know his boat- prop size gear ratio etc. So I guess only you are entitled to speak out of your A$$?! Then someone calls you on it and they have an anger issue?! CLOWN!!
