33 vs. 38 vs 40+
09-11-2020, 02:20 PM
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Tore up water like that will aerate the the props, hard to get on plane and it doesn't help when you have the titanic plowin a 4 foot hole through the water
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09-11-2020, 09:16 PM
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That looked very similar to a windy day at Mead, great video! That fountain must be underpowered or having problems or the driver was a scared bear.
My 33AVS will absolutely, without a doubt run at speed in 3-5’ (wave buoy certified). I’ve done it, multiple times. With multiple people witness. I’ve gone out on days when jet skiers were saying don’t go out it’s bad. I’ll record it next windy day. Im not bragging, I’m just saying that a 33AVS will have absolutely no problem with 3-5’ ers - this is fact.
Honestly the waves aren’t the difficult part, the wind pushing against the bow and having to counter steer into the wind Is more difficult than the waves believe it or not. I’ve been out on days that the wind sheer would blow so hard that the counter steering into the wind makes the boat ride sideways but it still goes fine jumping and cutting through the water. I’ve got no ego. I’m not making this up, for internet friends.
I’m sure the guys that don’t believe it will flame away. But this is truth. Here’s the best part, I don’t even know how to Properly work my trim tabs or my engine trim- I just put the boat in the water make sure both engines are all the way “in” and go. I don’t do the on/off throttle thing either I literally just put the boat in the water make sure both engines are “in” and tell everyone to hang on.
next windy day I’ll screen shot all data off sbbn2 Buoy and grab my GoPro 5 and head for temple bar from lake mead marina - cheers!
( https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_realtime.php?station=sbbn2 )
My 33AVS will absolutely, without a doubt run at speed in 3-5’ (wave buoy certified). I’ve done it, multiple times. With multiple people witness. I’ve gone out on days when jet skiers were saying don’t go out it’s bad. I’ll record it next windy day. Im not bragging, I’m just saying that a 33AVS will have absolutely no problem with 3-5’ ers - this is fact.
Honestly the waves aren’t the difficult part, the wind pushing against the bow and having to counter steer into the wind Is more difficult than the waves believe it or not. I’ve been out on days that the wind sheer would blow so hard that the counter steering into the wind makes the boat ride sideways but it still goes fine jumping and cutting through the water. I’ve got no ego. I’m not making this up, for internet friends.
I’m sure the guys that don’t believe it will flame away. But this is truth. Here’s the best part, I don’t even know how to Properly work my trim tabs or my engine trim- I just put the boat in the water make sure both engines are all the way “in” and go. I don’t do the on/off throttle thing either I literally just put the boat in the water make sure both engines are “in” and tell everyone to hang on.
next windy day I’ll screen shot all data off sbbn2 Buoy and grab my GoPro 5 and head for temple bar from lake mead marina - cheers!
( https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_realtime.php?station=sbbn2 )
You owe it to yourself and your passengers to learn how to drive that boat before you go run it hard again.
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09-11-2020, 10:24 PM
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THIS!
I have been in real 5-6 foot swells on Lake Michigan that were spaced a LONG way apart. We ran 40-50 mph flying off each swell with plenty of time to land, adjust and accelerate into the next one. And this was in a tiny boat.
I have also been on Lake Michigan in 2-3 footers that rattled fillings loose when it was a washing machine.
I have been in real 5-6 foot swells on Lake Michigan that were spaced a LONG way apart. We ran 40-50 mph flying off each swell with plenty of time to land, adjust and accelerate into the next one. And this was in a tiny boat.
I have also been on Lake Michigan in 2-3 footers that rattled fillings loose when it was a washing machine.
OP, I have zero experience with these boats on topic but I am a huge fan of them. It seems like once you go above 33’ it’s much less of a hot rod and becomes a family cruiser until you start adding big power. Either way, I’m truly enjoying this thread.
09-11-2020, 10:53 PM
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Was this 43ZR vid taken on Mead?
Just playin
Just playin
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09-12-2020, 08:31 AM
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with that said, this boat at 9000lbs+ running weight and just over a lackluster 1000hp. It is pretty stable, it’s never felt out of sorts, it’s planted and works very well.
when it hits a wave weird I just kinda let it do it’s thing and not over correct, I simply tapper off the throttles a bit let it bounce back to level and then back on the throttles... it needs to be said I’ve got years of off-road truck and motorcycle race and pleasure experience, there is a lot of discipline that transfers over from offroad racing to boats. Both machines dance underneath you,.. the terrain is ever changing,..In the desert the waves are called whoops and an over correction could mean the end of a fun day. The nice part about the boat is that it’s so slow, everything is slow motion, best my boat gets with people and gas is mid/upper 70s and that’s not in chop or waves. And when it gets rough my speed comes down to just over half that, I’m just saying this so you don’t think I’m some ego driven mindless maniac missile’n through the water with zero respect for the machine or loved ones in it.
This discussion is so far off the topic at this point, I wish someone could just answer the simple question, is a 43’ boat that much better offshore than a 33’
09-12-2020, 08:54 AM
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Ocean, you're really taking a beating here, I'd forgotten what your question was....🙂
I'd look back at your previous boats (mentioned in another thread) and answer your own question...
You've gone from a 22' boat to a 27' and now a 33 footer. How did the step up feel to you? Apply the same principles from 33 to 38 and 43 and I reckon you'll have your answer.
5 Foot in length is a big difference on a boat with a lot more weight too and although weight kills speed to some degree, it can be your friend when crushing waves. Scarabs were never light boats but were considered good wave crushers.
The 33' is a sports car, the 43' is a limo.
RR
I'd look back at your previous boats (mentioned in another thread) and answer your own question...
You've gone from a 22' boat to a 27' and now a 33 footer. How did the step up feel to you? Apply the same principles from 33 to 38 and 43 and I reckon you'll have your answer.
5 Foot in length is a big difference on a boat with a lot more weight too and although weight kills speed to some degree, it can be your friend when crushing waves. Scarabs were never light boats but were considered good wave crushers.
The 33' is a sports car, the 43' is a limo.
RR
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09-12-2020, 09:14 AM
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How has Darr not been brought up yet?
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09-12-2020, 09:14 AM
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Though I don't see A MASSIVE difference in day to day use the is an undeniable difference. Frankly, how could there not be - look at the size difference
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