For all you guys that like to shoot off your mouths without knowing, here is a quote from the Park spokeswoman Christie Vanover “The lake is vast,” Vanover said.

“The valley also is prone to winds, she said. As winds pick up, they can create waves anywhere from 8 to 10 feet tall or larger.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/boulder...dangerous/amp/

You are not going to come on OSO and call other members names and insult them. You admittedly have very little experience in the high performance boating world and that is evident by some of your questions. Everyone was inexperienced once, but insulting the people with experience is not going make you any friends here. Just because peeps doubt your 10' waves claims on Lake Mead, you seem to take it personal. I could care less what some park ranger spokesperson said in an article. That is not fact, that is their estimate of wave height. No where does it say it was measured with any scientific device. I really don't care either way though.

Bottom line is any further name calling insults and you will be banned.

This argument is pointless but how can you even see over these 10’ or 8’ swells when you’re in the trough? I’ve idled out into 6-7’ swells in Lake Michigan and when you’re in the trough all you see is water around you. Like being in a pit surrounded by water.

Since we should now be grateful that no terrorist incidents took place on our soil while we were busy debating sea states I would like to continue this thread for all high performance boaters who frequent LOTO, Lake Mead and Tahoe. When LOTO is busy and wind have picked up in the afternoon it's a challenge for most 35'-40' boats to run safely at a decent pace due to traffic and turbulent waves. Having spent 30 years on Lake Mead I can attest that 5'-8' waves do occure and the worst danger is the extreme wind that causes havoc and destruction. Lots of boats have been lost, but thankfully sober boaters wearing lifevests usually get rescued and recover since water temperatures are cool, but not cold. Lake Tahoe is a different animal. The only waters comparably treasarous on the 'Left Coast' are along the stretch from San Francisco South to past the Channel Islands outside Santa Barbara. The wind and the often occuring 8'-10' swells/waves are like the Great Lakes at storm. Lake Tahoe is by far the most dangerous place to boat though of these 3 lakes, since boaters that are not aware of how extremely quick the conditions change there, and how few minutes you got until you need to get picked up out of the very cold water is seldom understood. Thousands of boats litter the bottom of breathtakingly beautiful deep Lake Tahoe.

The Wellcraft Scarab 33 AVS has the same basic hull design as my Larry Smith Team Scarab 31. Since they got a wide 8'6" beam and the same 31'1" loa, both versions are very capable in rough water. The 33 AVS, due to the aft ventilated steps is better in the rough than the regular 2 or 3 step designed deep-v boats of similar lengths. A 38' Scarab AVS is roughly 2,500 lbs heavier, and though the beam is the same at the waterline, the additional feet of length makes a difference at 2'-5' waves with normal wavelengths if running at higher speeds. With your 1,000 hp in the 33 AVS I bet you're seeing mid 80s, but equal power in a 38 AVS would deliver at least 10 mph slower top speed. I personally find our size Scarab to be slightly more nimble, definitely quite faster and a perfect size for pretty much any conditions, except the extreme times the weathergods are angry. Enjoy Your 33 AVS for the forseeable future, but if You got the coin and want to create an instant legend for reasonable money, then You should commision Dan at Team Archer Marine to finish the black 1994 Larry Smith 43 he's got. Enjoy Your future boating adventures. Cheers, Lars.

Why would anybody be out in 8-10s? I've been in 6s on my PowerPlay which is a capable hull and it was not fun...at all. If you're purchasing a boat for those infrequent times it kicks up on the lake then listen to the weather report like most responsible boaters do and stay the hell off and get a boat that suits you for the other 99% of the time. That is unless you just want a boat that's overkill for the vast majority of time...then there's nothing wrong with that.

Don’t play the victim role- you and your members spew ignorant and condescending remarks but I say anything back and I get banned?. Pretty dumb. I may have little to none experience in “high performance” boating but at least I’m honest and say what’s true. I don’t ridicule- I’ve been tore apart here because I said mead has 10’waves - which it does- but then I get made fun of and laughed at from the “experienced guys” who obviously know nothing.

I might be new But even I know that the rangers use buoys - lol your comment saying that was their opinion and not measured with a scientific device??? God are You really that clue less? The park rangers have weather buoys all over that lake that feed the park rangers real time data by the minute, they then write the conditions down on a Grease board so that everyone is aware as they come in. This isn’t their opinion this is SCIENTIFIC FACT! Your fake news, spreading misinformation. You should stop that,

Well guys I’ll bow out of this one. Looks like California has gotten to your admins brain. If your ever out on Mead in LV and you see the white AVS skipping right along the 3-5’ers that me. Try to keep up and come say Say hi.

I did call Archers, I am buying the 43LS, Thanks for all the good information from the guys who were positive and helpful. When it gets done it will be my New Port rig for weekend trips to Catalina. It’s going to be an awesome build! Can’t wait to share it.

watch the video...enough said. if water comes over the top of a 54’ Viking in 7’s you aren’t running a 33 in 10’s

In all seriousness for anyone reading this thread that believes any of these inland lakes have 10' waves have you ever looked at a map and zoomed out just until the said lake is not visable anymore and then panned over to the great lakes?

Without google searching just using a little bit of common sense and a quick proportional ratio by looking at the map how big do you guys think the great lakes water can get?

So to get this back on Topic, I'll reiterate that a 43' boat is bigger than a 33'.......

I don’t think anyone ever said anything about running a 33’ in 10’s. That would be insane. Sweet Viking though.