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Old 09-12-2020, 10:01 AM
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We ran with our 43 in the Erie Poker Run in both 2015 and 2017 in very rough water. A good friend was running in his 36 Apache. While he took multiple waves over the bow, we took none. There was a major difference in the 2 boats ability to run in that water. I might add that the owner of the 36 has literally 1000's of hours running this boat and is highly skilled. The difference was simply the length difference between the 2 boats.
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I plan on taking some sort of course, sometime, I definitely plan on working my way up to a multi thousand HP cat and with the go and speed associated with each I’d like to learn from someone.

with that said, this boat at 9000lbs+ running weight and just over a lackluster 1000hp. It is pretty stable, it’s never felt out of sorts, it’s planted and works very well.
when it hits a wave weird I just kinda let it do it’s thing and not over correct, I simply tapper off the throttles a bit let it bounce back to level and then back on the throttles... it needs to be said I’ve got years of off-road truck and motorcycle race and pleasure experience, there is a lot of discipline that transfers over from offroad racing to boats. Both machines dance underneath you,.. the terrain is ever changing,..In the desert the waves are called whoops and an over correction could mean the end of a fun day. The nice part about the boat is that it’s so slow, everything is slow motion, best my boat gets with people and gas is mid/upper 70s and that’s not in chop or waves. And when it gets rough my speed comes down to just over half that, I’m just saying this so you don’t think I’m some ego driven mindless maniac missile’n through the water with zero respect for the machine or loved ones in it.

This discussion is so far off the topic at this point, I wish someone could just answer the simple question, is a 43’ boat that much better offshore than a 33’
of course it will be. There's no replacement for displacement. Bottom line
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Originally Posted by ocean


This discussion is so far off the topic at this point, I wish someone could just answer the simple question, is a 43’ boat that much better offshore than a 33’
yes
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Originally Posted by ocean
This discussion is so far off the topic at this point, I wish someone could just answer the simple question, is a 43’ boat that much better offshore than a 33’
Yes, huge difference. I have a 30' Scarab (similar length to your 33) and a 37' AT. The days that I contemplate whether I want to take out the Scarab and break stuff are the days that it starts to get fun in the AT. The Scarab has always got me back in rough water, but it's just not enjoyable.
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I think we are gonna need a bigger boat!?!? So what’s the all around perfect size boat? Lakes off shore river?!?!
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Originally Posted by Eddienel
I think we are gonna need a bigger boat!?!? So what’s the all around perfect size boat? Lakes off shore river?!?!
wanna buy an avs 33 lol.. looks like I’m building a Larry Smith 43 flat top
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Originally Posted by ocean
wanna buy an avs 33 lol.. looks like I’m building a Larry Smith 43 flat top
let me guess...so you can run in 40’ swells?

😭😂😭😂😭

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The 33 Scarab is an impressive hull its faster and handles the rough better then most boats in its class which will make it difficult to find a bigger boat that also does that. I don't Believe the larger scarabs stand out much but are still good boats.

Yes you will notice a big difference going up in size BUT might want to go faster because the same speed will feel boring.

There are only 5 inland lakes in America that can produce a 10' Anything! Period. Science. Fact. With Data to support.
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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
let me guess...so you can run in 40’ swells?
Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
There are only 5 inland lakes in America that can produce a 10' Anything! Period. Science. Fact. With Data to support.
this thread is really showing who the ignorant are lol.
Mead has 8-10’ waves it’s fact. Read the link morons.

The valley also is prone to winds, she said. As winds pick up, they can create waves anywhere from 8 to 10 feet tall or larger.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/boulder...dangerous/amp/

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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
let me guess...so you can run in 40’ swells?

😭😂😭😂😭

clueless

the only one clueless is you. Look up your facts dip****.
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