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I feel the govt is going to make my life so impossible to live as a free choice person that I am thinking of just throwing in the towel and getting the shot . Some of my concerns have been answered but being black listed just isn't worth it to me anymore. They beat me :(
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I got the JJ jab not too long after my last post. Within hours I was in bed with a fever and chills. My pharmacist told me that since I'd had Covid, that I was probably going to get hit hard. The next two weeks post shot were pretty bad and it was like having the damn sickness all over again. I have not been right since. My gf and I got the jab so that we wouldn't run into issues traveling (she's been mostly okay but she had pfiser).
My brother received the moderna shot. He's been dealing with nerve issues in his legs and in pain pretty much all the time now. He's had numerous tests to figure out what's going on and his docs are so far clueless on what's causing it. They will not say the jab caused it, but the timing lines right up. He and I both regretting getting them. |
I'm still holding out - but I expect either my company or the medical insurance company will require it at some point. We recently allowed mask removal at work with proof of vaccine. But oddly enough, I still estimate 60% of employees are still wearing a mask. (8000+ employees under roof per day)
So I'm sitting here in my office with a mask on to follow the rules. But I think the shot is in my future, as well. But they will have to make me.
Originally Posted by TYPHOON
(Post 4799574)
I feel the govt is going to make my life so impossible to live as a free choice person that I am thinking of just throwing in the towel and getting the shot . Some of my concerns have been answered but being black listed just isn't worth it to me anymore. They beat me :(
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We need to vaccinate the un vaccinated because the vaccine isn't working in the vaccinated....
My deepest sympathy for those that were duped into getting mRNA injected into them.... Fuk that poison. |
Originally Posted by ALL_IN!
(Post 4799578)
I'm still holding out - but I expect either my company or the medical insurance company will require it at some point. We recently allowed mask removal at work with proof of vaccine. But oddly enough, I still estimate 60% of employees are still wearing a mask. (8000+ employees under roof per day)
So I'm sitting here in my office with a mask on to follow the rules. But I think the shot is in my future, as well. But they will have to make me. "Make you"??? I want to know where the hell HIPAA is during all this? During the 80's was there a sign on every store saying if you had AIDS you couldnt come in? Ive recently seen stores that forbid "Unvaccinated" people from entering the store. Im sure the florist that got sued for not making the cake for a gay wedding loves our current landscape. The news is the devil! Now, everybody is up Desantis's azz again in Florida for high numbers. None of them seem to remember 9 months ago. Over Thanksgiving in 2021 - this year Desantis will be like "Here, hold my beer" in the northern states as the occupants come inside. Just like last year the numbers will go up. |
Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta
(Post 4799580)
"Make you"??? I want to know where the hell HIPAA is during all this? During the 80's was there a sign on every store saying if you had AIDS you couldnt come in? Ive recently seen stores that forbid "Unvaccinated" people from entering the store. Im sure the florist that got sued for not making the cake for a gay wedding loves our current landscape.
The news is the devil! Now, everybody is up Desantis's azz again in Florida for high numbers. None of them seem to remember 9 months ago. Over Thanksgiving in 2021 - this year Desantis will be like "Here, hold my beer" in the northern states as the occupants come inside. Just like last year the numbers will go up. Other thing that really gets my goat, is the fact there is zero mention or accommodations for anyone whom gained natural immunity by having the illness. My whole family contracted COVID before it was announced. We all had it the week before x-mas 2019 and it was a two-week miserable sickness and we all had the textbook symptoms they announced in March 2020. All of us had inconclusive influenza tests. Consequently none of us have even had a sniffle or cough that wasn't caused by allergies in nearly two years and have lived "fairly" normal lives as allowed by the restrictions. Also I have had some minor health changes/lasting effects that weren't there before COVID contraction and showed up about 6 months afterwards such as some heart arrhythmia and I'm 36 years old in decent albeit overweight health. Wore a monitor for 2 weeks and was inconclusive. None of my household have any plans to get the jab and we are pretty science/technology-driven people. My older CNN/CBS/NBC watching family members had a kitten when we stated we had no plans of getting it. Last I checked natural immunity is still better than vaccines as they encode to 3 separate virus components not just the spike protein as in the jabs. Our corporate guidelines have zero regard for natural immunity, and I still have to wear a mask, and get the comments/shock comments about being unvaccinated. Government has given zero accommodations/study to "treatments" and have put all their stock in the preventative/vax measures. It is crazy and totally baffling the lack of common sense with any of it. |
Originally Posted by Gimme Fuel
(Post 4799587)
I agree, HIPPA seems to have gone out the window with this whole deal.
Other thing that really gets my goat, is the fact there is zero mention or accommodations for anyone whom gained natural immunity by having the illness. My whole family contracted COVID before it was announced. We all had it the week before x-mas 2019 and it was a two-week miserable sickness and we all had the textbook symptoms they announced in March 2020. All of us had inconclusive influenza tests. Consequently none of us have even had a sniffle or cough that wasn't caused by allergies in nearly two years and have lived "fairly" normal lives as allowed by the restrictions. Also I have had some minor health changes/lasting effects that weren't there before COVID contraction and showed up about 6 months afterwards such as some heart arrhythmia and I'm 36 years old in decent albeit overweight health. Wore a monitor for 2 weeks and was inconclusive. None of my household have any plans to get the jab and we are pretty science/technology-driven people. My older CNN/CBS/NBC watching family members had a kitten when we stated we had no plans of getting it. Last I checked natural immunity is still better than vaccines as they encode to 3 separate virus components not just the spike protein as in the jabs. Our corporate guidelines have zero regard for natural immunity, and I still have to wear a mask, and get the comments/shock comments about being unvaccinated. Government has given zero accommodations/study to "treatments" and have put all their stock in the preventative/vax measures. It is crazy and totally baffling the lack of common sense with any of it. Over the 4th of July 6 families had a party they are all vaccinated. 4 of the 6 families got Covid from the party. As the days went on, their kids got it too. Thats a great case study if I ever saw one. So, it was initially transmitted, then again at home. So whats the point of doing this? This last month Ive talked to so many people that had Covid that were vaccinated its bizarre. At this point, I dont understand the benefits of even brushing my teeth anymore... |
HIPPA isn't what you want it to be , mostly its about security of medical records ( storage and communications between providers) I dont remember it saying that you cant be asked about an issue.
I got my shot and haven't looked back. I had 3 friends die and and one on a vent for 3 months and not only is his health ruined hes financially ruined. Another cant smell or taste - did they survive, sure they are alive but forever changed. If you crash your boat and get paralyzed is that survival? . Do as you wish, pass it back and forth all I ask is get your advice from a educated source. All doctors are not in the know, what information is a foot doctor going to provide? Its like asking the kid at Autozone for help with camshaft suggestions. I thinks its funny that people say they can't wear a mask but turkey hunt with one on all day . 2nd laugh- Bill gates tracking you 🤣 wow you must be important! My cellphone cuts out and the battery is getting weaker and weaker but somehow they can track you from a shot you got yet a year ago everyone swore the government couldn't fold toilet paper now they stepped up and are following you. social media isn't research I get it life is scary and sometimes the men move to the front and the boys step back. In my former life there were times that we had to move forward into the unknown, staying put we were all going to die and I didn't known what was going to happen further down the road but I knew that standing still was a death sentence. |
Look up Nuremberg code 1947. I already told my boss that if the company says I have to have it, they can fire me.
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i dont plan on ever taking it. im cool with not flying..
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When the army owned my ass I took what I was required to take. That time has passed and now nobody is going to force me into taking a vaccine or any other medical procedure or treatment again. I deal with vaccines on a daily basis and I believe in them -- but I believe in vaccines that have been proven safe and effective. Not this great unknown "trust us, it's for your own good" BS.
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"The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov."
"VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to VAERS. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind." Deaths from contracting Covid-19: 614,000. New Cases reported Nationwide yesterday: 96,000 Percentage of new cases with hospitalization that were not vaccinated: 98%. Take the vaccine or don't, I think it's your decision and support you 100%, but mathematically, SAFETY isn't a reason to not take it. WAY more dangerous out here without the vaccine. In a reality where both the virus and the vaccine exist, taking the vaccine seems to be the lesser of two evils. I got two shots! Headed to Aruba in October! |
Originally Posted by CDShack
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Deaths from contracting Covid-19: 614,000. New Cases reported Nationwide yesterday: 96,000 Percentage of new cases with hospitalization that were not vaccinated: 98%. Take the vaccine or don't, I think it's your decision and support you 100%, but mathematically, SAFETY isn't a reason to not take it. WAY more dangerous out here without the vaccine. In a reality where both the virus and the vaccine exist, taking the vaccine seems to be the lesser of two evils. I got two shots! Headed to Aruba in October! ***People on this website do more research, validation and fact checking on a camshaft than most of the US is doing on a vaccine (mRNA) that is actually manipulating their DNA. The above info and the majority of news is completely lacking in facts, data, misleading and inaccurate. First, stop throwing around "614,000" how many died WITH COVID versus FROM COVID. Beyond the numbers, the majority of deaths are people over 65, obese or with pre-existing conditions. 1.2 M people die every year for the last 40 years from heart disease and cancer - Wheres the concern on that? Fat mofo's are still eating cheeseburgers and smoking... 609,640 Americans die from cancer 647,000 Americans die from heart disease This was just in the WSJ:The Flimsy Evidence Behind the CDC’s Push to Vaccinate Children The agency overcounts Covid hospitalizations and deaths and won’t consider if one shot is sufficient. By Marty Makary July 19, 2021 1:52 pm ET TEXT 960 Henry Cantlin,12, gets a Covid-19 vaccine in Philadelphia, May 14. PHOTO: JIM Z. RIDER/ZUMA PRESS A tremendous number of government and private policies affecting kids are based on one number: 335. That is how many children under 18 have died with a Covid diagnosis code in their record, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Yet the CDC, which has 21,000 employees, hasn’t researched each death to find out whether Covid caused it or if it involved a pre-existing medical condition. Without these data, the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices decided in May that the benefits of two-dose vaccination outweigh the risks for all kids 12 to 15. I’ve written hundreds of peer-reviewed medical studies, and I can think of no journal editor who would accept the claim that 335 deaths resulted from a virus without data to indicate if the virus was incidental or causal, and without an analysis of relevant risk factors such as obesity. Meanwhile, we’ve already seen inflated Covid death numbers in the U.S. revised downward. Last month Alameda County, Calif., reduced its Covid death toll by 25% after state public-health officials insisted that deaths be attributed to Covid only if the virus was a direct or contributing factor. NEWSLETTER SIGN-UP Opinion: Morning Editorial Report All the day's Opinion headlines. PREVIEW SUBSCRIBE WSJ NEWSLETTER Notes on the News The news of the week in context, with Tyler Blint-Welsh. Organizations and politicians who are eager to get every living American vaccinated are following the CDC without understanding the limitations of the methodology. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky claimed that vaccinating a million adolescent kids would prevent 200 hospitalizations and one death over four months. But the agency’s Covid adolescent hospitalization report, like its death count, doesn’t distinguish on the website whether a child is hospitalized for Covid or with Covid. The subsequent Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report of that analysis revealed that 45.7% “were hospitalized for reasons that might not have been primarily related” to Covid-19. Hospitals routinely test patients being admitted for other complaints even if there’s no reason to suspect they have Covid. An asymptomatic child who tests positive after being injured in a bicycle accident would be counted as a “Covid hospitalization.” The CDC may also be undercapturing data on vaccine complications. The CDC’s risk-benefit analysis for vaccinating all children used rates of complications extrapolated from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System database, known as Vaers, which contains raw, self-reported data that is unverified and likely underreports adverse events. The CDC or the Food and Drug Administration should expeditiously assign doctors to research each of the thousands of vaccine complications reported to Vaers. The CDC’s poor performance isn’t limited to kids or vaccine safety. Early in the pandemic the CDC left us all flying blind by not reporting the medical conditions of those who died of Covid. Collecting this information early would have made it easier to protect nursing-home residents and patients with renal failure or diabetes. It took until March 2021 for the CDC to report that 78% of Covid hospitalizations were among overweight or obese patients. Most striking, the CDC has never systematically collected and reported the No. 1 leading indicator of the pandemic—daily new hospitalizations for Covid sickness. Instead, the CDC offers the lagging indicator of hospitalization for anyone who tests positive for Covid. The CDC data on natural-immunity rates is similarly disappointing. The CDC reports this measure in fragments on their website, but it’s outdated and some states are listed as having “no data available.” The low priority given to this indicator is consistent with how public-health officials have played down and ignored natural immunity in their drive to get everyone vaccinated. Given the tremendous resources of the CDC and FDA, which together employ 39,000, these agencies ought to be able to report the statistics needed to make informed policy decisions. If the data are incomplete or flawed, so too will be the decisions derived from them. The vaccine’s benefits may outweigh its risks for healthy kids, but the government shouldn’t try to push that conclusion based on faulty data. Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health and Carey Business School. He is author of “The Price We Pay: What Broke American Health Care—and How to Fix It.” WSJ Opinion: The Challenges of the Delta Variant YOU MAY ALSO LIKE UP NEXT WSJ Opinion: The Challenges of the Delta Variant WSJ Opinion: The Challenges of the Delta Variant Journal Editorial Report: Charles Payne interviews Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins. Image: Frederic J. Brown/AFP via Getty Images Copyright ©2021 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 87990cbe856818d5eddac44c7b1cdeb8 Appeared in the July 20, 2021, print edition. |
Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 4799609)
i dont plan on ever taking it. im cool with not flying..
i will not get tested, far as i'm concerned it's just way to infect you with something. cancelling and driving is my gut on this, i don't even want to go but have to. |
Some very interesting reading on the Novavax Covid Vacine. If Im understanding it right they do not use rnma or gene manipulating technology but dead protein from the Covid virus to stimulate the immune system. Im guessing more on the Influenza type of vaccine. Ive had 2 ENT's tell me to wait on this vaccine and both Dr's have not been vaccinated but both said that Novavax has actually followed the FDA protocols. Im still not going to get vaccinated unless I just absolutely have to.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/novav...ffects-5192068 |
Well I got the Pfizer doses and my dikk grew 6” but then I died
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Originally Posted by ph1971
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Well I got the Pfizer doses and my dikk grew 6” but then I died
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The JJ jab shrank mine by 6-inches so look out! Thank goodness I had a 12-incher. My gf is relieved. Lol
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Originally Posted by TomZ
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The JJ jab shrank mine by 6-inches so look out! Thank goodness I had a 12-incher. My gf is relieved. Lol
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I hope none of you vaccinated bastards gets me sick, please wear your mask!! It`s for my safety!
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Chicken pox....spreads like Chicken pox....(((they))) turned up the fear knob to 11.....(((they))) really do think they are in control.....I have common sense, I might not be the brightest bulb in the box...but I do possess common sense...
This isn't going to end well....Convid™ FOREVER... |
Originally Posted by open87
(Post 4799678)
Chicken pox....spreads like Chicken pox....(((they))) turned up the fear knob to 11.....(((they))) really do think they are in control.....I have common sense, I might not be the brightest bulb in the box...but I do possess common sense...
This isn't going to end well....Convid™ FOREVER... |
10 years from now you and your wife will be sitting on the couch watching late nite TV and see "did you take the covid vaccine? you could qualify for a cash settlement. call Knight Line Legal to see if you qualify"
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