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02-18-2021 | 07:12 AM
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3.85-4.20 on the water and about 3.20-3.50 on the road. Gas tax in MO is still reasonable. But, they are talking a 5 year plan of increases. No road tax on the water here. Oil is still going to get here, it will just come by train instead of pipeline and cost more. Sucks big time for the oil workers, who busted their asses off to get the pipeline working. A little ditty below about the oil movement on trains vs Pipeline.
KEYSTONE PIPELINE VS TRAIN TO MOVE OIL
1 Train has 100 cars, 2 engines and weighs 27,240,000 LBS.
1 Train carries 3,000,000 gallons of oil.
1 train uses 55.5 gallons of diesel per mile.
It takes 119,000 gallons of diesel to go 2150 miles from Hardidsy, AB to Freeport, TX.
Keystone pipeline was to deliver 34,860,000 gallons of oil per day.
It would take 12 trains and 1,428,000 gallons of diesel to deliver that amount. PER DAY!
521,220,000 gallons of diesel per year.
KEYSTONE PIPELINE VS TRAIN TO MOVE OIL
1 Train has 100 cars, 2 engines and weighs 27,240,000 LBS.
1 Train carries 3,000,000 gallons of oil.
1 train uses 55.5 gallons of diesel per mile.
It takes 119,000 gallons of diesel to go 2150 miles from Hardidsy, AB to Freeport, TX.
Keystone pipeline was to deliver 34,860,000 gallons of oil per day.
It would take 12 trains and 1,428,000 gallons of diesel to deliver that amount. PER DAY!
521,220,000 gallons of diesel per year.
02-18-2021 | 07:13 AM
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Here last night, Raceway station, $2.59/87 octane, 10% Eth. I go to BJ's, use our BJ CC, (.10/gallon discount, $2.29/87 octane, 10% Eth), CRAZY part here is diesel is only $2.69/gal, only $0.10/gallon cheaper than gas....Thanks China Joe!
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02-18-2021 | 08:12 AM
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Could it be that Warren Buffet (who owns Burlington Northern RR) just MAY have contributed millions to a certain sleepy joe election fund. So there you have it, no pipe line but we do have a willing substitute. Right good old boy at work here.
02-18-2021 | 08:19 AM
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^^^Bingo. I worked 18 years for the BNSF and was a company officer at the time of the Berkshire buy out. It was known that Buffet wanted the bnsf due to its position in the bakken and ability to move crude. Side note, not all crude by rail goes to Texas. I dealt with crude trains that were taken to trans load facility’s on the Mississippi River to be barged to refineries. Much cheaper to go by barge than rail.
02-18-2021 | 08:29 AM
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I'm sure we'll be back to $5.00 a gallon for crappy MTBE laden 91 octane on the water in California this Summer. It'll be a nice $1,200.00 bill to fill up the 36.........still way better than the $4,000.00 ($10.00 per gallon) it's going to cost to fill up the 46 with 110 race gas though!
02-18-2021 | 08:50 AM
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3.85-4.20 on the water and about 3.20-3.50 on the road. Gas tax in MO is still reasonable. But, they are talking a 5 year plan of increases. No road tax on the water here. Oil is still going to get here, it will just come by train instead of pipeline and cost more. Sucks big time for the oil workers, who busted their asses off to get the pipeline working. A little ditty below about the oil movement on trains vs Pipeline.
KEYSTONE PIPELINE VS TRAIN TO MOVE OIL
1 Train has 100 cars, 2 engines and weighs 27,240,000 LBS.
1 Train carries 3,000,000 gallons of oil.
1 train uses 55.5 gallons of diesel per mile.
It takes 119,000 gallons of diesel to go 2150 miles from Hardidsy, AB to Freeport, TX.
Keystone pipeline was to deliver 34,860,000 gallons of oil per day.
It would take 12 trains and 1,428,000 gallons of diesel to deliver that amount. PER DAY!
521,220,000 gallons of diesel per year.
KEYSTONE PIPELINE VS TRAIN TO MOVE OIL
1 Train has 100 cars, 2 engines and weighs 27,240,000 LBS.
1 Train carries 3,000,000 gallons of oil.
1 train uses 55.5 gallons of diesel per mile.
It takes 119,000 gallons of diesel to go 2150 miles from Hardidsy, AB to Freeport, TX.
Keystone pipeline was to deliver 34,860,000 gallons of oil per day.
It would take 12 trains and 1,428,000 gallons of diesel to deliver that amount. PER DAY!
521,220,000 gallons of diesel per year.
02-18-2021 | 08:52 AM
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^^^Bingo. I worked 18 years for the BNSF and was a company officer at the time of the Berkshire buy out. It was known that Buffet wanted the bnsf due to its position in the bakken and ability to move crude. Side note, not all crude by rail goes to Texas. I dealt with crude trains that were taken to trans load facility’s on the Mississippi River to be barged to refineries. Much cheaper to go by barge than rail.
02-18-2021 | 09:29 AM
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Gas average here is 2.39 and climbing. Back in the last recession I think the highest we saw was around 3.13
02-18-2021 | 09:33 AM
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Its $1.43 per liter near my new house. New town has a transit tax on their gas that my soon to be old town doesn't have. Its $1.24 per liter here in soon to be old hood. Only moving to a city next door. Our moron Trudeau also brought in a carbon tax on top of our moron provincial governments carbon tax. Gas will be expensive this summer!
