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blacktruck 01-20-2023 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4856605)
The Swedish Nitra 22 SuperSport Carbon Edition for example has a structural build quality that's pretty much in a league of its own. However, though the interior is nice, some American brands' custom interior offerings Nitra can't touch. With its 5 foot 3 inch beam and 26 deadrise, it might do 90s with a 300R, but it's not a triple-digit boat. The current super-strong dollar really gives these Euro imports a serious price advantage right now. My personal opinion is that the Donzi 18 hull is by far the best-performing design in the Donzi Classic range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l_0tCT2QCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKhIXJ0fME

The Nitra are not well made at all. They are priced very low for a reason. Take a look at one if you get a chance, I've never seen such poor build quality before. All the Donzi Classics are limited by that ancient hull design. The new 22 is much better at least.

blacktruck 01-20-2023 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4856486)

Boat looks great, however the 300R AMS is not the engine for that boat. It will be bad, it's heavier and the mid is sloppy. Needs a 300R HD. AMS is best for twins with a tie bar, or a multi engine CC.

larslindroth 01-20-2023 03:17 PM

Turk Jr., 15 years old, of the Woody Racing team, will campaign a Nitra 22 in OPA Class 700 this season. Rigging was done by Shaun Torrente so it's up to the youngster to show us what the boat can do. Should be fun.

Photo

Wildman_grafix 01-20-2023 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4856779)
Turk Jr., 15 years old, of the Woody Racing team, will campaign a Nitra 22 in OPA Class 700 this season. Rigging was done by Shaun Torrente so it's up to the youngster to show us what the boat can do. Should be fun.

Photo https://www.instagram.com/p/Clhi4OMMMRh/?hl=en

Yes it will be interesting, cool looking boat to. I hope he does well.

Gearhead_boats_ 01-23-2023 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by blacktruck (Post 4856777)
The Nitra are not well made at all. They are priced very low for a reason. Take a look at one if you get a chance, I've never seen such poor build quality before. All the Donzi Classics are limited by that ancient hull design. The new 22 is much better at least.

Hull is well made and solid on hardest hits too. You can get a cut on your hand from very few "hidden" points but that's the case with 99% of boats. Interiors are not as fancy as in many US boats but these are full on race boats with added seats and driven that way too so I'm fine the way it is. General finishing and wiring is the worst part - there's hoses and wires leaning on sharp edges and wiring was pretty messy. Took some effort to make these survive in a long run. I have also changed a lot of things on the boat during 3 years to make it run just like I want it to - added lots of setback, moved fuel tank back 6 feet, changed some electric stuff for better (jack plate switch was stucking etc).

For a turn key boat it has its flaws. Some elbow grease and it will drive and survive much better.

WavetoWave 01-23-2023 09:49 AM

The market is pretty strong for performance boats. Obviously the sport cat and big cat market is really strong but even the smaller V hull boats, Tuff has a long wait list, Chaudron has a wait list etc. Donzi sells quite a few of these Classics. I think in some cases people want the most expensive engine possible, making small boats too expensive, when they could save tons of money with a more modest engine. But each to their own.

27 Chaudron with a 300R runs around 85 MPH, is a beast in rough water, and looks incredible. Starts at around $145k. And gets to 100 MPH with a 450R.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a4504fac_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8b022d5a_c.jpg

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blacktruck 01-23-2023 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Gimme Fuel (Post 4856537)
Just goes to show there is ZERO entry level in this sport anymore. Even the 10 year old used boats are ridiculous. I just can't fathom/justify paying 220k for a 22' boat with 5 basic seats. Take 100k off and it would be more realistic, yes I'm sure the 565 Merc package isn't helping, but good lawd!

I agree, but the 22 Donzi is $140 to $150 with a 8.2 Mag. Still crazy, and there better boats for sure that are less money. That Active Thunder with a 250R or a 225 would be reasonable I'm sure.

blacktruck 01-23-2023 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by techman (Post 4856765)
Do you think anyone would build one with a 350 HP 6.2 Merc in it?

For sure, most come with a 8.2 it looks like. A 6.2 350 would be fine in that boat.

TeamSaris 01-23-2023 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_boats_ (Post 4857064)
Hull is well made and solid on hardest hits too. You can get a cut on your hand from very few "hidden" points but that's the case with 99% of boats. Interiors are not as fancy as in many US boats but these are full on race boats with added seats and driven that way too so I'm fine the way it is. General finishing and wiring is the worst part - there's hoses and wires leaning on sharp edges and wiring was pretty messy. Took some effort to make these survive in a long run. I have also changed a lot of things on the boat during 3 years to make it run just like I want it to - added lots of setback, moved fuel tank back 6 feet, changed some electric stuff for better (jack plate switch was stucking etc).

For a turn key boat it has its flaws. Some elbow grease and it will drive and survive much better.

You could have been describing a Donzi classic except the part where you said hull is well made.
What really bothers me is Donzi had the capability to make the ZR line of hulls. Arguably one of the best handling vee bottom designs in history. So how in the world were they content blowing out poorly built classics for so long?

Gearhead_boats_ 01-24-2023 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4857132)
You could have been describing a Donzi classic except the part where you said hull is well made.
What really bothers me is Donzi had the capability to make the ZR line of hulls. Arguably one of the best handling vee bottom designs in history. So how in the world were they content blowing out poorly built classics for so long?

Got my whole package for under 50k (with options, new 4.6 Mercury) so there's benefits when buying early from a rising manufacturer. You can do that right now with Finnish built Argo 23 cat that does 105mph+ with a 200xs.


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