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Old 12-04-2002, 08:32 PM
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What is a V1S1?


As to the other "issue", I wasn't suggesting that my boat would dare compete with a 50 time World Champion, 85 World Record Holding, 250 mph bat boat. Heavens no, but rather that the bat boats do have a little problem with staying in lanes........This is a primary complaint of other racers on the same course with them...and I have watched this myself from "The best seat in the house"...flying over them in a number of offshore races. The design is faster than a normal monohull....we agree on that point. It is also half the frontal area for the length...and it has wings. The ability in rough water is astounding.........but they do stuff with regularity, spin out in turns (Watch the APBA races ...sometimes two of them go around simultaneously), and are known for hellacious impact "body shots", the old Volvo boat in particular. But admittedly if you are building a pure performance craft......you have to overlook some idiosyncracies.

I am glad for you that gas station attendants and car hops love your winged wonder.......... This is truly why I'd buy a boat. Who cares that it docks at a 15 degree angle to the pier? The main thing is that you like your ride and drink Oxy Manyspin's coolaid regularly.

T2x ........remembering the Original Bat Boat..........and Robin

P.S. 126 mph is faster than a 28 Skater with twin 2.5's (110-120)

But it is also a little hard to believe.........even for good ol Aimless Multisteps

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Old 12-04-2002, 08:40 PM
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T2X, Could you please define "Oxy Manyspins coolaid" . I have an idea what it means, but want to be sure.

Hey Tom, I saw a commercial for something called Enzyte on TV that may be able to help the average length thing.
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:29 PM
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:36 PM
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Hey Tom, I saw a commercial for something called Enzyte on TV that may be able to help the average length thing. [/B]
No need for tv commercials. Just today I got 27 emails about penis size, 14 about larger breasts, 53 invites to porn sites, and two posts from somebody who thought acting like a big dick would make his bigger.
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Old 12-04-2002, 11:27 PM
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I was trying to find the post about Shock wave and what little furry thing? Sometimes T2x makes more sense then most realize. Is this turning into a Sutphen thread? It should, or the name should be changed to "How can a V bottom be so fast without any steps?" being a "Sport Pacer" owner I can relate to the speed and solid turning, something called "Rocker" How about it you Sutphen experts? T2x, etc. Do we have any Sutphen Experts out there? Romper stomper bomper boo, I think i see one.

Philip

BTW after the Sutphen I bought a 21' non step "v" bottom, a Linder Challenger, then a 21' non step Shadow, all 3 of these boats never knew they needed steps.

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Tom.....ROTFLMAO

Philip....Exactly how does Sutphen fit into this discussion ? I have not seen a compettitive Sutphen since Ocean Spray back in 1996. And it kicked serious butt.
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Philip and Rich, glad to see you two on the board. I haven't visited much recently as I've been pretty busy and the board has felt a bit too much like a love-in of late. Now, I see that you two are bringing it back to reality...

How are you guys? I hope the holiday season finds you both doing well.
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If steps don't increase speed; why is it when all other things are equal: weight, horsepower, x-dimension, props, that no one in factory one & two is winning without them?

It is also a given that all step designs are not equal. I find it most interesting that Formula's 6 year old design is still running with the best when the weights are equal!

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With first the 46-footer and then the 36, more steps were added to the sponsons to decrease drag and to change the attitude of the hull to create a more efficient running surface until the five steps in the hull of All Risks was established.
above quote is from an article referred to on Skater's website. http://www.skaterpowerboats.com/

Sounds remarkably like the quote earlier from Ocke. Next thing T2x will start calling him Lyin Dick (Peter Hledin - Peter Lyin - Lyin Dick for those who missed his puns on Ocke Mannerfelt). No offense meant to Peter, he is one of my heros too.

h2owarrior, i did try one of those pumps once, it was fun, but i don't think it made any difference. Viagra was a blast though, who cares how big it is when it won't quit. I've come to accept my penis size and my boat that maybe won't float yours.

Lets see - Skater, Mannerfelt, Formula, Cigarette, Fountain, and tons more vote for steps including "change the attitude" from Skater.

T2x, maybe Peter Hledin of Skater has a hidden meaning in there for you. It seems like your logic amounts to nothing but name calling. I'm pretty sure based on a quick look at the last 50 posts from you on various topics that "attitude" is your primary interest.

Looks remarkably like steps on that 28 Skater, are you sure you have one? I wonder if Hledin knows they are dangerous and don't work.

Now back to steps; Does anyone know why steps are forward, back, low, high, 5 steps, 2 steps, all over the place? Do they work in spite of bad design or only well designed ones? Reckless made some good points about wave chop having the same effect and was it T2x who mentioned how hard it must be to factor in all the changing factors in waves? Do steps only make a difference in flat water? Do they really cause more spinouts? Inquiring minds want to know.
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there are a lot of hyper critical remarks towards the Batboats, and while some probably have seen and been lucky enough to ride in one, they are a blast , yet not everyones cup of tea. there are SO many boat builders with all the same step this step that, super duper go fast technology. but when you look at the amount of Horsepower and money spent to go fast, what is the real story, i certainly dont have a cool million to go 200 mph.
Like all we come to the board for both the comraderie of powerboats and and our passion, but all to often threads turn into a pissing contest, if all you have to say is negative stuff about one's ideal design, its quite simple, move on dont comment, dont buy the boat, dont bum a ride in one , etc. and Dont talk out of your arse, because thats what you will end up looking like in the eyes of many others that just lurk the boards.
This is not directed at anyone, just a opinion, i think ive earned it.
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