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Old 08-09-2023 | 09:59 AM
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I kind of doubt that many of the people who own a 4-5 motor CC is doing their own maintenance, or for that matter financing much of a 700-1Mil boat.

That is a whole different level of income stream then us guys messing with old I/O's.
Old 08-09-2023 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
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There are certainly those out there. But, mostly, what I’ve seen are a bunch of 30 somethings who have discovered a liking of boating and a depth to their credit that makes it all possible. Overwhelmingly, the age of the two demographics shows the older crowd likes loud inboards with real HP, and the younger crowd likes the quiet OBs in double triplicate to make up for a lack in individual HP. What I’ve noticed is that the older crowd seems to have the resources to just let somebody else shoulder the headaches of maintaining their beasts, and the younger crowd is gullible enough to believe maintaining five OBs is easier and cheaper than maintaining two IBs.

All good, though. Just as with the first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun, the first rule in being a boater is HAVING a boat. We have a friend with a pontoon. And while we give him crap for owning a complete waste of mineral resources, we certainly appreciate he brought a place to hang the grill.

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The “older crowd” were probably brought up with inboards, at a time when a 200hp outboard was the biggest thing available. I’ll bet they (sorry, we…..) still prefer 80’s music too. Not saying they are reliving their childhood or having a mid life crisis but it’s what they always loved about boating and always will. Nothing wrong with that.

Also, if people with half a million, or a million, to dump on a depreciating toy are so inexperienced and naive enough to buy a boat based on what a salesman said, they deserve what they get. As Gordon Gecko said, “a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place.”

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Old 08-09-2023 | 10:55 AM
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yes on flushing but no need for added penicillin to make sure you got all the "salt" out/off LOL
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Old 08-09-2023 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
Knot,

There are certainly those out there. But, mostly, what I’ve seen are a bunch of 30 somethings who have discovered a liking of boating and a depth to their credit that makes it all possible. Overwhelmingly, the age of the two demographics shows the older crowd likes loud inboards with real HP, and the younger crowd likes the quiet OBs in double triplicate to make up for a lack in individual HP. What I’ve noticed is that the older crowd seems to have the resources to just let somebody else shoulder the headaches of maintaining their beasts, and the younger crowd is gullible enough to believe maintaining five OBs is easier and cheaper than maintaining two IBs.

All good, though. Just as with the first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun, the first rule in being a boater is HAVING a boat. We have a friend with a pontoon. And while we give him crap for owning a complete waste of mineral resources, we certainly appreciate he brought a place to hang the grill.

Thanks. Brad.
From the guys who used to be on here a long ago, I'm seeing the opposite. A lot of the guys on here got old and went to center consoles. Manufacturers followed them to that market to follow the money. It's easier to sell less boats for more money so they abandoned their original market instead of investing in scaling up or innovating to build more efficiently.

There's a huge gap in the sport boat market where the interested buyers are late 20s-early 40s but builders and Mercury are ignoring them to go after a tiny demographic with large budgets. As people pass away that wealth will get divided up more and more with the demographic getting even smaller and smaller.

Edit: There's a reason Yamaha is selling more boats than anyone else and I won't feel bad for any manufacturer that has their niche market dry up again.

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Old 08-09-2023 | 11:16 AM
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I've had both I/O and OB now. 700SCi/NXT in my last boat and 450Rs on this boat. Both have been solid reliable power packages provided I maintained them. The ease of maintenance with the OBs is night and day though, oil changes, drive fluid changes, any other misc. service has definitely been easier to perform on my OBs. I miss my 700s at times, they sounded amazing and had great "hit" when you pushed the sticks. If given the choice again though, I'd still pick the OBs. For my style of boating they have worked great.
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Old 08-09-2023 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by precisiondetails
Just on our small Poker Run 2 weeks ago- we had 3 OB prop shafts break. All on OB cats.

Meanwhile all M6 & M8 drives are all completely fine.
I could get those 3 boats out of the water, replace their lower units and get them back in the water during the lunch break at the poker run.

While M6 and M8 drives are stout, what usually sits in front of them needs frequent rebuilds
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Old 08-09-2023 | 01:32 PM
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Check out the Borden Light PR thread Matt T just posted up.

Shout out to the NE Hi-Po gang for keeping the loud boats in play.
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Old 08-09-2023 | 02:30 PM
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Silly kids lets get this right outboards are for bass and pontoon boats..... inboards for speed boats with thru hull exaust!
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Old 08-09-2023 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by techman
Check out the Borden Light PR thread Matt T just posted up.

Shout out to the NE Hi-Po gang for keeping the loud boats in play.
x 2 !!!
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Old 08-09-2023 | 04:24 PM
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Sure saw a lot of older men running multi engine C.C.at Boyne Thunder.
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