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Old 01-02-2025 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
Any idea what TNT does special? Looks , Perforrmance?
Aye, 500HP is 500HP, unless TNT is reflashing them to 600.
I get what Sydwayz is saying which is value to the uncertain buyer, but otherwise.
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Old 01-03-2025 | 07:02 AM
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Aye, 500HP is 500HP, unless TNT is reflashing them to 600.
I get what Sydwayz is saying which is value to the uncertain buyer, but otherwise.
But depending on how the boat is optioned and dialed-in, cruise and top speeds can vary by 10-15 mph.
The right dealer and partner in who you buy from and who maintains your boat; is key, and worthwhile for both the dealer AND the buyer/owner/(eventual seller).

Sure, you can buy a boat direct from some manufacturers. BUT, if you want to sell your 440X MTI Catamaran, and get into a Cigarette 59' Tirranna; the MTI Factory probably isn't going to be the first one to call you back.

If there are 2 MTI Catamarans; 1 bought from TnT and 1 bought from MTI direct; sitting in the storage facility next to TnT, and the Key West Poker Run starts tomorrow...
...and for whatever reason, BOTH of those boats blew a powerhead on the Monday test run...

...I can tell you which one is NOT getting the new 500HP outboard that TnT has in stock, installed overnight, so you can leave on the Poker Run in the morning.

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Old 01-03-2025 | 07:38 AM
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I have no dog in this but for everyone talking about how unreliable the I/O is compared to the OB.

Is it really fair to compare a 1100+ HP I/O reliability to a 500HP OB?


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Old 01-03-2025 | 08:15 AM
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I love the sound and torque of big block motors. I had Zul power in my 42 Cigarette and could never see the draw to an outboard. Now that I have crossed over to the dark side I am blown away. Much less maintenance way better on fuel, reliability is far greater not to mention resale. It is hard enough to find a buyer for cats let alone a big powered inboard. Again I love them. I would guess insurance for a new cat owner would be more expensive and harder to get on a high horsepower inboard cat.
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Old 01-03-2025 | 08:18 AM
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I wouldn't buy thru the factory for an MTI. I'd buy from a dealer at the same cost.

BUT......

What sense would it make to purchase a boat from a FL dealer, when the OP has a local dealer 5 minutes from him that would support him? I could be wrong, but I don't think TNT moves more MTI's than PBC. And you'd be getting there "PBC Edition"

Thats all I got ---------> Carryon
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Old 01-03-2025 | 10:12 AM
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Nice looking I love the layout of those cats. ICDEDPPL needs to talk John into putting a small cabin in one so he can go to OB's.

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Old 01-03-2025 | 10:24 AM
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"lmao! It seems you can afford that 42 cat with 1100 to me ."


If I could be happy with only one then you MIGHT be correct (at least until I broke it). My deal is that there are only so many holiday and special event weekends. If something is down, I go turn another set of keys and continue on with friends and family that are in town.

Insurance for me on a new 1100 is the same as what I pay on six or seven of my current fleet and a very good friend of mine just got his QC4 (one of them) back from Mercury for a re-fresh along with a 106K bill for what was done. This does not include the pull, install, shipping, hassle, time down and or other finds that you always run into when you are doing motor swaps on an inboard (been there and done it). I can buy a bunch of powerheads or gear cases, and trash the cores for that money. Boating is my first motorized passion, but spending 12 to 14 hundred per hour and missing special days would send me in another direction. There is a reason that used big inboard cats are priced at a fraction of new right now.

It all depends on your level-I'm just not there, but would love to be....

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Old 01-03-2025 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 4195


Here is my hull and paint
my oh my if that isn’t just gorgeous!! Nice build my friend. I am assuming it’s a DHD paint design as that’s who does almost all of the Mystic boats? Btw where do you boat at with it mainly?
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Old 01-03-2025 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JPEROG
"lmao! It seems you can afford that 42 cat with 1100 to me ."


If I could be happy with only one then you would be correct. My deal is that there are only so many holiday and special event weekends. If something is down, I go turn another set of keys and continue on with friends and family that are in town.

Insurance for me on a new 1100 is the same as what I pay on six or seven of my current fleet and a very good friend of mine just got his QC4 (one of them) back from Mercury for a re-fresh along with a 106K bill for what was done. This does not include the pull, install, shipping, hassle, time down and or other finds that you always run into when you are doing motor swaps on an inboard (been there and done it). I can buy a bunch of powerheads, gear cases, and trash the cores for that money. Boating is my first motorized passion, but spending 12 to 14 hundred per hour and missing special days would send me in another direction. There is a reason that used big inboard cats are priced at a fraction of new right now.

Joe
see now this post right here is honestly what keeps me from buying another inboard boat. This is what I remember from my last inboard power boat. It’s very irritating when I go to use it and it needs fixed and the length of time it’s down. It’s not that I can’t afford the bill, it’s that I don’t want to lose those hours of fun when the time comes I want to use it. Hours are what is most valuable to me.
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