What’s inherently unsafe on them? It’s been proven the common denominator was a lack of experience/training with the speed/capability of the old Bo’s. Kinda like the crypto guys all crashing their SR22s I guess. At least they have CAPS 😊

Does flying an SR22T and driving a modern outboard cat put you in a different risk pool?

Seriously - super bummer and sad for this or any pleasure boat accident. Be safe out there guys.

SJP

Couldn`t disagree more.
It is ABSOLUTELY the hull/boat.
Not a single 3600 Supercat has ever blown over.
Weight, design, tunnel width and compression ratio all play a big role to say otherwise is not correct.
390X is the most blown over cat ever. The owner had a 36 Spectre, 36NT, and 36 DW previously and no issues and plenty of cat experience.
Using your logic all Nortech drivers are excellent and all 390X drivers are bad.
Certainly not the case.

Correction on my previous statement the five 390X blowovers I`m aware of only this one had fatalities.

I don`t agree that this is not the time to discuss this.
I`m sure MTI would disagree however.

Concur

Gregg Rosen, the owner of Aqua Mania was killed in a 39 MTI too. He has owned some of the fastest boats in the world and was very experienced. So yeah, I would agree that the 39 MTI has bitten some very experienced boaters. One incident could be chalked up to bad luck, etc…, but when it’s happened to multiple guys with a lot of experience, I think the 39 MTI needs to really be looked at as the common denominator in these situations.

I think a quick fix is insurance companies black list them, banks stop financing them, and they will go away.

I would think that a past owner of cats with experience in them would recognize the reason these potato chips fly so fast as Dan said.

Being up the river here all week and witnessing the gusts out of no where I can tell you it was a factor unless a big wake got a hold of them while trimmed hi.

I’ve flown parasails off this west coast region commercially for 20 years and east winds are notoriously gusty. Some days worst than others .

My experience when you get a big gust there is a vacuum that is momentarily right before it hits, I’ve seen it trying to land parasails in high gusts conditions and it will try to collapse the sail. When that is going on I call it a day .

It May be a great boat designed to pack air safely at 100-120 but what happens when a 40 mph gusts makes that a 140-160 mph pack ?

A Lifeline probably saved my life in a cat accident...

Maybe that is the problem. Right there.

If we go back to the sports car analogy, you want your car to tell you when it is on the verge of letting go. Not just send the rear axle in front of the front axle without notice.

Experienced cat drivers have been killed in the MTI 390X. Maybe because they expected the signals that they were used to getting in other cats.

That may be a very good point. I have rode motorcycles my whole life. We always like sport tires that would slide before they let go, even when there were others that would grip better.

You needed to feel when the bike was sliding and then work with it, a sudden loss of traction always meant you were going to feel some pain.

Fair perspective, and I get where you are coming from. There are cues to everything. In my racecar, our class recently switched tire manufacturers. We went from Toyo to Hoosier.
With the Toyos, they started to slip, and you knew where the limit was.
With the new Hoosiers, they hold, hold, hold, hold, and then BAM they are gone and you find yourself 'agricultural racing.'

It's important to remember that boats don't wreck boats.
Captains wreck boats.