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Triage 12-04-2025 08:09 AM

Learning

waybomb 12-04-2025 08:42 AM

Instead of a control surface at the rear of the tunnel, or maybe in addition to it, how about a large vent at the top of the hull's tunnel controlled hydraulically by accelerometers, ground radar. and pressure sensors?

boostbros 12-04-2025 08:50 AM

after thinking a bit aeroplanes do have control surfaces but still crash most often due to pilot error maybe we should teach do not let yourself get into this situation where trouble is likely (strong headwind) one of airplane terms is coffin corner know your and the boats limits and stay within them!

offshoredrillin 12-04-2025 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4939587)
Thanks for keeping to what's important in this thread Joe, the people involved in this accident. I've been hearing from friends that though Kirby is pretty beat up, he's going to be ok in the long term. The severe saltwater ingestion in his lungs is what I've heard he's having the most difficulty recovery from, but that he is steadily getting better. All these keyboard warriors on here are why I started the thread I posted immediately after my old 30 Prototype went over with the new owner and took Nancy's life - if you don't stop this stuff before it starts, it just goes on and on. It also reminds me of the dogpile that jumped on my original accident in my 30 Prototype back in 2006 - it seems as though some things never change.........

and ironically it's the same people flapping....

ICDEDPPL 12-04-2025 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by waybomb (Post 4939607)
Instead of a control surface at the rear of the tunnel, or maybe in addition to it, how about a large vent at the top of the hull's tunnel controlled hydraulically by accelerometers, ground radar. and pressure sensors?

How about instead of all this crazyness they just build a heavier cat with a narrower tunnel and less compression and emphasis on safety rather than top speed?
Again, not a single Nor-tech 3600 has ever blown over and it has none of these crazy equipment/sensors.
It`s not that hard when you put safety before speed.

hogie roll 12-04-2025 09:09 AM

I think a 4-6’ “wheelie bar” behind the boat with shovel pointed down and angled forward could save a lot of blow overs. Boat rears up and at 10-20* angle it hits the water and slows the boat. Not sure how to make it not ugly.

Hook and roll, you’re on you’re own there.

Smarty 12-04-2025 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4939587)
Thanks for keeping to what's important in this thread Joe, the people involved in this accident. I've been hearing from friends that though Kirby is pretty beat up, he's going to be ok in the long term. The severe saltwater ingestion in his lungs is what I've heard he's having the most difficulty recovery from, but that he is steadily getting better. All these keyboard warriors on here are why I started the thread I posted immediately after my old 30 Prototype went over with the new owner and took Nancy's life - if you don't stop this stuff before it starts, it just goes on and on. It also reminds me of the dogpile that jumped on my original accident in my 30 Prototype back in 2006 - it seems as though some things never change.........

I have not made a comment in this thread regarding the accident, the facts surrounding the accident nor what has been posted in this thread or in the news; however, if members of OSO would like to discuss what could be done to prevent future similar accidents that result in injury or death to the driver or passengers in a performance boat then it is absolutely good to talk about it in this thread and on this platform.

The “keyboard warriors” as you have labeled them have had some very interesting points and bought information that I was unaware of in this thread, such as multiple accidents in the same make and model boat.

I would rather learn and be alive, rather than being uninformed and unfortunately putting me and or my passengers at risk.

I’ve been on this site for over 25 years and I like learning, as do the other people on OSO.

And…I’ve learned from you,in some posts, that you made throughout the years, so keep posting and educating the OSO members when you can.

Tartilla 12-04-2025 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Pwcpro785 (Post 4939566)
May sound stupid but what about a pressure transducer giving constant feedback on tunnel pressure.
I know nobody could react quick enough to stop it but maybe you could see tunnel pressure changes as wind gusts hit as conditions are worsening?
As it is now its really hard to tell wind speed and direction when you're traveling 80+

One factor is the speed. 140mph is almost double the velocity of many small aircraft require for lift off.

Add an unexpected gust of wind, you could be in the air before you even realize.

The F-14 had about 25% lift from the wide fuselage structure.


DRAG 12-04-2025 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4939612)
How about instead of all this crazyness they just build a heavier cat with a narrower tunnel and less compression and emphasis on safety rather than top speed?
Again, not a single Nor-tech 3600 has ever blown over and it has none of these crazy equipment/sensors.
It`s not that hard when you put safety before speed.

You can make whatever you want, you have to be able to sell it. People want good looking boats that go fast.

ICDEDPPL 12-04-2025 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by DRAG (Post 4939620)
You can make whatever you want, you have to be able to sell it. People want good looking boats that go fast.

This week during a run the new 4000 hit a cruiser wake and stood up so straight others could see the floor inside the boat. Didn`t blow over.
IMOP It`s a good looking boat that still goes 140+ SAFELY. I think the 3600 and 4000 speedster are both good-looking boat that go fast . I make under 1100hp.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f661c184f7.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...86a8cbaae9.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0a9687018c.jpg



Making a narrower tunnel with less compression isn`t going to make a cat look bad. but if speed is your thing then a 390X is for you . Good luck with that.


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