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Old 11-10-2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtown42
What's the big curiousity with Ben K? He's a bag of chit. Why put him on a pedastel, he killed everybody's favorite hero. Shipped millions of dollars in drugs, hurting the fabric of society. Most including me, are ready to throw the key away for poor asss Troutly, another bag of chit. Why doesn't Big Ron P. set up an interview with Troutly. Or maybe GoodT, I'm sure he's available. What goes around comes around. I'm sure most here could own 150 million dollar casinos if we worked illegally, killed, and screwed everyone that gets in your way.
Agreed, wont change my opinion of him, but I wouldnt mind hearing his side of everything, thoughts on boats, set ups, hulls. Just want to see the view from another angle.
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Old 11-10-2006 | 03:38 PM
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If someone ever gets the opportunity to interview him, I hope they ask him why he didn't just run in the first place. The whole helicopter escape baffles me. He knew he was going away and he knew he'd die in jail. It would have been easier for him to disappear into the Carribean or South America from Miami. Once you've busted out of a Federal prison in Indiana, where the hell do you run to?

Of course Benny is a scumbag. He still gets remembered because of the whole Apache thing. Had he started some half-a$$ed boat co. and not had Don clipped, he'd have disappeared like so many other anonymous dope smugglers. I mean, who talks about George Morales these days?
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Old 11-10-2006 | 04:21 PM
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He still gets remembered because of the whole Apache thing.
Fu*k him. He bought the 41' mold form Don anyway. What I'm interested in knowing is what Don did to piss him off between there business deal for the US Racing to get killed
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Old 11-10-2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtown42
What's the big curiousity with Ben K? He's a bag of chit. Why put him on a pedastel, he killed everybody's favorite hero. Shipped millions of dollars in drugs, hurting the fabric of society. Most including me, are ready to throw the key away for poor asss Troutly, another bag of chit. Why doesn't Big Ron P. set up an interview with Troutly. Or maybe GoodT, I'm sure he's available. What goes around comes around. I'm sure most here could own 150 million dollar casinos if we worked illegally, killed, and screwed everyone that gets in your way.

Well spoken........................
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Old 11-10-2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by T2x
Ben is in for life without parole......

Ron:

Betcha I could do it without a recorder...........

I bet Ben would approve as well........

T2x
Well, what's stoppin' ya Rich...go for it. I'm sure lots of people would want to read it and weather or not what you think of Ben it would be interesting reading.
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Old 11-10-2006 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sommerfliesby
Oh no. Earl has personal "knowledge." He has visited Ben Kramer in jail. Ask him, he's shown the board many times under a different name.
YUP !!!
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Old 11-10-2006 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtown42
What's the big curiousity with Ben K? He's a bag of chit. Why put him on a pedastel, he killed everybody's favorite hero. Shipped millions of dollars in drugs, hurting the fabric of society. Most including me, are ready to throw the key away for poor asss Troutly, another bag of chit. Why doesn't Big Ron P. set up an interview with Troutly. Or maybe GoodT, I'm sure he's available. What goes around comes around. I'm sure most here could own 150 million dollar casinos if we worked illegally, killed, and screwed everyone that gets in your way.
Well put!
Never could understand peoples idolization of criminals.
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Old 11-10-2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron P
Ben wouldn't agree to that. He wanted to do it face to face, with his lawyer present.

At least Ben now gets EBM in Jail!
Ron,
I can get in there despite what the warden says and bring a court reporter also. He can bring his attorney and we can do a deposition. (Of sorts) I will style the case EBM v. Ben Kramer
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Old 11-10-2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron P
The Warden denied our first and second request. Even Ben's lawyer couldn't get him to budge.

So, we tried..... It would have been a great article.

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What we have here, is failure to communicate.
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Old 11-10-2006 | 10:32 PM
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Ron, dhlaw has it worked out....git 'r done, dude!
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