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2005 c6 corvette?
does anyone have any pics or info on the 2005 next generation c6 corvette ?
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Here is what I found and check the following thread;
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=688159 Bunch of spy pics here: http://palmeter.com/CorvetteTimelineW11P06.htm Some renderings: http://palmeter.com/C6Spec30.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~rodviper1/badsmall.jpg |
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LOL GLH.. must have been lokking at CF at the same time
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Whatever it finially looks like, they will be hard to get at list/sticker the first year, just like the 97's were when the change to C-5 hppened. I am waiting for 2006 when the 500HP ZO6 comes out, its the only car I will give up my 2003 ZO6 for. PS my 2003 Z06 is my 23rd corvette, and yes they do keep getting better. I just drove a Cadillac SLR, and even though its on a corvette frame with a lot of vette's parts it has some nice new features, but at $75K it is not a vette nnor as fast yet. A turbo XLR is due out next year at 500HP, but guess what. A CHEVROLET CORVETTE is AMERICA's ONLY TRUE SPORTS CAR, Always was, always will be. You can not beat it for the price against anything built in the world. Throw another $50K and give it to John Lingenfelter and you will have the fastest car on the planet for $100,000.
Yes I am a vette lover. The only thing better is 100mph on the water. |
When are they gonna step it up? The Europeans are stepping all over the American performance market!!! You can get a Benz off the showroom floor with 600+ horsepower and 4 year warranty WITH service included.
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You'll pay too much...........but if it were made in quantity like the Vette is.....is sure would come down in price! All I'm saying is that American car manufacturers are waaaaaaay behind still. Even the Jap cars out run them still.
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Originally posted by Troutly Nort...and how much are ya gonna pay for this particular Benz and how does it perform? The Corvette is one hell of a bang for the buck :) Roby |
Until GM decides to make the Corvette in a mid engine configuration, it will never be "world class".
Otherwise, it is a relatively good value. vtec |
robyw1 - you have to take the hp in context with the car. It doesn't weigh as much as some of the other cars out there and it's aerodynamics are also a factor as the speeds increase. I do agree though, they need to up the hp to compete, however, 450-500 hp in a car like that is enough!
vtec - I disagree, the C5 has 51%/49% front/rear weight distribution, how are you going to improve that number? Leave mid engine designs to the other car manufacturers, the Corvette smokes most of them anyway (Viper too). Mid engine is over rated. |
Originally posted by Indy the Corvette smokes most of them anyway (Viper too). Where on earth did you see a Vette smoke a Viper? I don't think so. We smoked a C5 Z06 in a new 2003 Viper and it was not at all hard to do. We could have really put the hurt on the Vette bad except this Viper had 477 miles and didn't want to work the engine before proper break in. Again beating the Z06 was very easy work in the Viper and is just a downright cakewalk in an 800HP Supra. The Corvette is not yet considered a fast car in my book. Hopefully the next C6 will be. Roby |
robyw1 - you misread my statemtent or I just wasn't clear enough, my point was that C5s and Vipers aren't mid engine cars and they do pretty well against the competition.
If the Corvette is not a fast car in your book, you're a hard man to please. It suits me just fine for what I paid for it and it runs better than most. |
I apologize; I did indeed misread his statement. I thought that he meant the Corvette would beat the Viper too. I read about 11 car magazines a month; yes I'm a hard man to please. I have always wanted to see the Corvette be a world-class performer because I love the fact that it is an American car. But they always seem to find a way to make the car a weak performer. That pisses me off because as soon as your 3 major car magazines get a hold of it they will trash it. If you have been reading them for the past 10 years you know what I'm talking about. You can say that the Corvette is a fast car if you want but when you have cars like the Ford Mustang Cobra, the Z28-SS the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO able to keep pace with it, What does that say for it's performance? I must give it up for Dodge though. They have created a 500HP V-10 Sports car, which is a convertible no less. Like you all have never dreamed of putting the largest engine in a small speedy car. It has received nothing but kudos from the motor press. They have raved about the V-10, best brakes of any car in history, and awesome handling. Well? I want the same for the Corvette. I want the world to understand the America makes the best performing cars ever. Is that asking too much from the greatest country in the world?
Another successful Dodge project is the new Neon SRT/4 They went after the import rice crowd and won them over with a 13.5 second car for less than $20K. The new Dodge Ram SRT-10 soon to be released will go after Fords Lightening. Trout, The Viper wasn't mine but belongs to a close friend. We were just cruising the streets. It cost about $76K but is available to whoever wants to fork over the money. I say that for that price it is even more bang for the buck than the Corvette. Should the Corvette get at least 500-HP for 2005 with it’s new C6 design then it will be among of not the greatest sports cars ever. Roby |
Originally posted by robyw1 Well? I want the same for the Corvette. I want the world to understand the America makes the best performing cars ever. Is that asking too much from the greatest country in the world? Roby As far as your above statement, there is a simple reason Chevy doesn't make it the greatest car in the world...affordability. Chevy is in this to make a profit and sell cars. Again, for what it costs, it's a great car and will keep pace with those that are twice the price tag. Don't misread me as a Corvette freak, I have a C5, but could basically care less about the Corvette "legend" or history. I never thought they were that great of a car until they developed the C5. It's a great, affordable, quick, comfortable car that can double as a daily driver...I think Chevy achieved it's objective. |
The rumors are more and more becoming closer to reality about a 400 cubic inch Super Vette. I would expect it in 2006.
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Originally posted by robyw1 Where on earth did you see a Vette smoke a Viper? I don't think so. We smoked a C5 Z06 in a new 2003 Viper and it was not at all hard to do. We could have really put the hurt on the Vette bad except this Viper had 477 miles and didn't want to work the engine before proper break in. Again beating the Z06 was very easy work in the Viper and is just a downright cakewalk in an 800HP Supra. The Corvette is not yet considered a fast car in my book. Hopefully the next C6 will be. Roby The wmv file is 3.8 meg. |
I really thought that Chevrolet was on to something with the ZR1 back in 1989. I thought: "Finally a 4-cam 32 valve for now on" I know the first production engines had lubrication problems but I wished they would have improved on it instead of going back to the pushrod motor. That is only one example of the little things that turned me off about the Corvette. I saw where that engine was used in a Baja 223 Bandit called Wet Vette. That was one of my favorite boats off all time. Not just the engine but I also liked the shape of the 223 Bandit. They are hard to find though.
Roby |
I was all set to buy a 2003 Vette last year until I test drove one. They are fast, handle well, accelerate like a scalded monkey, and are a tremendous value for the dollar. I just couldn't get past the cheap interior plastics and the leather felt like plastic. I used to have a 1992 Toyota Tercel that I paid $7000 for that had better quality interior materials. I have noticed that Chevrolet is upgrading some of its interiors but that cheap thin plastic shizit is a turn off for a $50,000 car. I ended up buying a Lexus GS. If Chevrolet would get rid of some of the plastic, the car may not have as many rattles in a few years. I will probably get bashed for this but it's what I found.
Mike |
Look at that orange:eek: Vette GLH posted, that thing is bad. Reminds me of the Nor tech that was Orange. That is the first pic I have seen and think they look great, Lets see I will have the Fountain paid off this month ( not bad only took 3 years). I would love to have that vette in my drive way this spring:p
WILL |
It always looks to me that the didn't have time to finish the design of the rear.....so they just make it flat with no style?
http://palmeter.com/C6Spec30.jpg |
Indy:
It's not a matter of center of gravity. It's a matter of polar moment of inertia. A weight distribution of 40/60 would be better. vtec |
Originally posted by PhantomChaos You'll pay too much...........but if it were made in quantity like the Vette is.....is sure would come down in price! All I'm saying is that American car manufacturers are waaaaaaay behind still. Even the Jap cars out run them still. Again, what would you rather listen to, a 350 cubic inch V8 with headers, and an open exhaust, or a raspy 4 banger that sounds like some pissed off bumble bees in a pop can. |
Alright, usuall y i will simply pass by a thread such as this one, but some of the remarks are too over the top for me to let go woth out simply putting some factual info on the table.
August 1st, issue Car and Driver, 2002 405 HP Zo6 =0-60= 3.9 seconds =1/4 mile time=12.4 seconds at 116 mph. Motror trend may 2003 2003 mustang cobra, vs 2003 C5 (both convertibles) Corvette(with 45 HP less than the Cobra) =0-60=4.72 seconds =1/4 mile=13.02 seconds @109.59 mph Mustang Cobra(390 Hp) =0-60=13.12 =1/4 mile [email protected] Corvette z06(385 hp) vs Viper ACR vs Cobra R Cobra R (price $55,000) 0-60 in 5.4 and 1/4 mile time of 13.4 @116mph Viper ACR (price $86,000) 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and 1/4 mile time of 12.4 at 120 mph Corvette Z06 (PRICE $ 48,500) 0-60 in 4.4 seconds and 1/4 mile at 13.0 seconds at 116 mph LAP TIME WAS 1 SECOND FASTER THAN THE MUSTANG AND 2 SECONDS FASTER THAN THE VIPER. 02 corvette 0-60 at 3.9 seconds, if thats not a fast car in your book, thaen maybe you need to re-write it. Nick Porter F2-34 throttleman. |
its funny to see how the corvette performance bashing ends when real numbers are put onto the screen.
Nick Porter F2-34 T-man |
My comment was that they need to step it up to compete with the Europeans. They need a high end version with some serious HP in it, better interior. Something world-class from America.
Like the Benz, each model is available with lower and higher HP and interiors. If people want it, they'll pay. |
Keep comparing numbers and Corvette comes out on top. Yes you can buy a new viper for $75K and have a good car, but for a little over $50K and add$10K for a little work, the vette will kick the @#$! out of the viper, because a stock ZO6 is as fast or a tenth slower off the showroon floor. As far a the European 'stuff" yes lots of handling, lots of torque, and LOTS of money. Hey a SL 55AMG has 606HP and 728lbs of torque and is almost as quick as the stock ZO6 @ $135K. America rules. If they ever really let it all hang out and went against the EPA, and all the other Govermental rules, the sky would be the limit.
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I find the 3.9 zero to sixty figure on the Corvette to be optimistic.
Zero to sixty, and quarter mile times don't tell you how well the car handles. I don't consider this post to be "bashing", I'm trying to be objective. vtec |
My .02 on handling. The Z06 Feels "Mushy" Im sure someone else agrees. Yes I did drive one, found some idiot who I gave 5$ to let me drive it, he was in pass seat, didnt say a word about being to hard on the car :)
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Originally posted by blueamerican Keep comparing numbers and Corvette comes out on top. Yes you can buy a new viper for $75K and have a good car, but for a little over $50K and add$10K for a little work, the vette will kick the @#$! out of the viper, because a stock ZO6 is as fast or a tenth slower off the showroon floor. And just what numbers would those be? Motor Trend has the 2003 Viper SRT-10 at 3.9 0 to 60 and 11.77 sec @123.6 MPH 1/4 mile. I don't see any numbers like that posted above. Again I love the Corvette but the new Viper will serve it up roasted on a silver platter. Show me a side by side comparison where the Corvette beats the Viper SRT-10. I want to see it. And no I don't mean the last years ACR Viper either. Also you have opened a new can of worms with the 10 grand of work. Take your Z06 and throw 10K in it and come see me. I have a little Japanese 6-banger and a hairdryer that would take your money and throttle your Corvette back to Bowling Green leaving you to wonder what the hell you stepped in. Take care, Roby |
I go to the roadrace tracks all the time for the "Friday at the track days" that all the car guys do, and the only thing that the Vipers do better than the Vettes in stock form is braking. 2K in brakes and the Vette kicks them in the a$$. Plus for the other 99.9% of the time your in them the Vette is a lot nicer ride. Plus you can almost get 2 Vettes for what one GTS Viper cost.
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Drag racing is a boring redneck sport, the only fun drag race is one with a turn at the end.
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Originally posted by robyw1 ........I have a little Japanese 6-banger and a hairdryer that would take your money and throttle your Corvette back to Bowling Green leaving you to wonder what the hell you stepped in. Laughing my ass off.......never heard of that! :D :D :D :D :D :D |
what kind of jap 6 banger? a skyline? and yet again, 100k to run what 12's? I would rather have some Lingenfelter Vette. I am just a toothless redneck with a jegs catalog.
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Again I love all performance cars regardless of their origin. The Corvette is one of my very favorites as is the Viper. I don't earn enough to own a Viper and if I bought a vette I would have to give up my boat. I have to settle for a APU Supra which I have been working on for a few years now. I like it; It seems to beat anything from a roll including the fastest 1100cc bikes. There are videos out there of an APU Supra doing this. Just look up Walser Supra on an internet search. I'm not stupid enough to make videos of street racing because rumors are the owner of the Walser Supra was in trouble with the law over his videos. My problem with the Vette is that it needs a little more attention to detail. But then again so does the Viper or any American car for that matter. I hate hearing that because I'm a proud patriot and believe our manufactures should be second to none.
Roby |
I almost feel childish even providing a rebuttle to these posts.
1st) yes, you do see numbers like that, a 3.9 0-60 from a 405 hp zo6(thats stock) Professional drivers? yes, but the car can do it. 2nd) yes the viper is a few ticks faster in the 1/4, but it also has a 95 hp premium to go with it, along with the $25,000.00 premium as well. 3rd) not many production cars will outperform a Z06 on the track, and the zo6 is a much easier car to drive. 4th) as stated previously, the europeans are producing large horsepower, BUt with LARGE prices as well. 5th) i dont even want to get into the japenese imports, they are as far from staock as anything can get if they are even putting up Respectable numbers. And if you are one of the few people in the US with a nissan skyline and you actually paid to get that little bastard over here, well then i feel bad for you. also consider this, the zo6 along with the viper will outrun more than 1/2 the cars that italy's ferrari has ever produced, all the street legal cars that England's lotus produces, and most of the cars Germany's porsche produces. so if thats not competing with europe, i dont know what is. Nick Porter F2-34 T-man |
What kind of Jap 6 banger with a turbo are you talking about? Corvette carries heritage and an incredibly sexy looking body. From men at 70 to guys at 20, the car appeals to a very large age group. A trip to Lingenfelter will make the Corvette one incredibly fast machine. I'm not big on Vipers because my father never liked Dodge and the Viper drivers around here are too stuck up. SRT4 is a nice car I will agree, but first year Dodge forgot to even put a limited slip up front. With the import craze, "ricers" and such I decided to get into 4x4 now. I'll buy a Corvette one day and more than one if I can afford it, but I highly doubt I'd buy a Viper. The import craze is great and all, and 1000HP Supras are really cool to see. But there aren't a TON of 700HP+ Supras out there. It's mostly 17sec Civics with some crazy body kit.
Lance |
No, I do not own a Skyline. I have a APU Supra (APU meaning advanced performance upgrades) I responded to the non-stock issue when it was suggested that 10K be put into the Corvette. If my response was too harsh I'm sorry. For hopefully the final time I love the Corvette. I just stated in the beginning of this thread that I hope they don't put a weak power plant in the upcoming C6. I stated that I would like to see 500 or more HP. I was then bashed as a Corvette hater just because I wanted to see more HP and pointed that the Viper has it beat.. for now.
Take care; Roby |
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Today audi rs 6 avant has 450 hp and this is a "socker mom car" It does 0-60 in 4,6 sec.
so I hope in deed the new corvette will take the challenge to be a real sports car and get some more juice under it`s bonnet. |
What "Sport Bike's" are getting beat by a Toyota car? Bike's are what I do for a living and the only ones being beat by car's are one's wiht guy's who can't ride. I have bone stock 600cc bike's and I mean stock right down to the pipe. Just lowered 2-3 inchs with a good rider running in the 9's. Getting a bike out of the hole is a lot harded than a car. From a roll from say 20-140 I don't think any street legal car has a chance against a 600cc modern sportbike. A 2003 Yamaha R1(1000cc) will do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds with a good rider. and the cars we are talking about are 4.5-5.0 second's 0-60.
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