Fu*%ing Theives
05-30-2004 | 01:52 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
Originally Posted by Troutly
Someone explain the reasonable justification for shooting someone for stealing personal property...
Reasonable assurance that the individual will never attempt to steal from you again.
The meek may inherit the earth, but the strong will steal it away from them.
I say this all somewhat lightheartedly, but truthfully, if someone decides to pursue a life of crime, they should realize that "rehabilitation" may come in the form of a wheelchair, not college courses in prison.
Andy
05-30-2004 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
Seems that Memorial Day weekend is a higher than normal theft day. Last night marks the third year in a row that on Memorial Day weekend my retail car and home theater store has gotten broken into. I attribute the fact that the thieves, if they have a job, are off Monday and have more time to kill. It may also be that the thieves assume that on a long holiday weekend more people are out of town and not watching their property.
My 12,000 sq. ft. showroom is on a major business road in Tampa with over 100,000 passing cars per day. At 2:30am, they bring a stolen SUV and a truck and a team to steal until the police arrives. Two of the three years years, a high speed chase has ensued. Last night was a chase with four thieves throwing my merchandise out of the open rear door of the SUV at the police car during a high speed chase that ended in a crash.
The police did apprehend one burglar with a long rap sheet and they say he is singing like a canary hoping for lesser charges. I have 16 digital cameras, six outdoor sirens, three piercing indoor sirens, and every trick security sensor available. Now I will have to install roll up grill doors in front of the glass and turn my retail store into a fortress to stop the madness.
Thieves threw over forty subwoofers and three large sub enclosures one at a time out the back door. Only one subwoofer was recovered. It was Christmas in May for cars passed by the Police as everyone stopped to gain what was dumped. All I can say is have the best locks on your trailer, block you trailer with a car if possible, purchase gps based recovery device for your boat, and find safe storage facility.
Life seems to be too short to have to lock down everything but society seems to have too many takers out for quick gain.
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My 12,000 sq. ft. showroom is on a major business road in Tampa with over 100,000 passing cars per day. At 2:30am, they bring a stolen SUV and a truck and a team to steal until the police arrives. Two of the three years years, a high speed chase has ensued. Last night was a chase with four thieves throwing my merchandise out of the open rear door of the SUV at the police car during a high speed chase that ended in a crash.
The police did apprehend one burglar with a long rap sheet and they say he is singing like a canary hoping for lesser charges. I have 16 digital cameras, six outdoor sirens, three piercing indoor sirens, and every trick security sensor available. Now I will have to install roll up grill doors in front of the glass and turn my retail store into a fortress to stop the madness.
Thieves threw over forty subwoofers and three large sub enclosures one at a time out the back door. Only one subwoofer was recovered. It was Christmas in May for cars passed by the Police as everyone stopped to gain what was dumped. All I can say is have the best locks on your trailer, block you trailer with a car if possible, purchase gps based recovery device for your boat, and find safe storage facility.
Life seems to be too short to have to lock down everything but society seems to have too many takers out for quick gain.
Andy Buzz
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05-30-2004 | 02:24 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
Originally Posted by PatriYacht
In England it is pretty much against the law to defend yourself even if you are being threatened. Don't let that happen in the U.S.
05-30-2004 | 02:34 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
The sad reality is this.... if you shoot an intruder... even if he is threatening you with physical harm... you will probably later wish that you had just given him the property that he was after... Most likely whether the intruder lives or dies after being shot.. you will face a law suit from grieving relatives... or a criminal suit for using undue force. Either way... you are going to lose.
Case in Point... does anyone remember the North Hollywood shoot out a few years ago... where the two guys went into a bank wearing body armor?... Well ... one committed suicide after being struck by bullets that went through the armor.. the second one gave up after being shot in the groin and feet. ( unprotected area).. Well .. the mother of the second scum sucker filed suit against the City Of LA because her precious little boy was allowed to bleed to death from the groin wound... ( the police thought he might have a bomb on his person ) so they wouldn't allow emergency medics to touch him. I don't know if the city settled out of court... but can you imagine??... These a$$holes blasted out an entire neighborhood and wounded scores of people.. Callous acts of cowardice... shooting anything that moved... but His Mother sues.... bastards........
Case in Point... does anyone remember the North Hollywood shoot out a few years ago... where the two guys went into a bank wearing body armor?... Well ... one committed suicide after being struck by bullets that went through the armor.. the second one gave up after being shot in the groin and feet. ( unprotected area).. Well .. the mother of the second scum sucker filed suit against the City Of LA because her precious little boy was allowed to bleed to death from the groin wound... ( the police thought he might have a bomb on his person ) so they wouldn't allow emergency medics to touch him. I don't know if the city settled out of court... but can you imagine??... These a$$holes blasted out an entire neighborhood and wounded scores of people.. Callous acts of cowardice... shooting anything that moved... but His Mother sues.... bastards........
05-30-2004 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
Originally Posted by Andy Buzz
Seems that Memorial Day weekend is a higher than normal theft day. Last night marks the third year in a row that on Memorial Day weekend my retail car and home theater store has gotten broken into. I attribute the fact that the thieves, if they have a job, are off Monday and have more time to kill. It may also be that the thieves assume that on a long holiday weekend more people are out of town and not watching their property.
My 12,000 sq. ft. showroom is on a major business road in Tampa with over 100,000 passing cars per day. At 2:30am, they bring a stolen SUV and a truck and a team to steal until the police arrives. Two of the three years years, a high speed chase has ensued. Last night was a chase with four thieves throwing my merchandise out of the open rear door of the SUV at the police car during a high speed chase that ended in a crash.
The police did apprehend one burglar with a long rap sheet and they say he is singing like a canary hoping for lesser charges. I have 16 digital cameras, six outdoor sirens, three piercing indoor sirens, and every trick security sensor available. Now I will have to install roll up grill doors in front of the glass and turn my retail store into a fortress to stop the madness.
Thieves threw over forty subwoofers and three large sub enclosures one at a time out the back door. Only one subwoofer was recovered. It was Christmas in May for cars passed by the Police as everyone stopped to gain what was dumped. All I can say is have the best locks on your trailer, block you trailer with a car if possible, purchase gps based recovery device for your boat, and find safe storage facility.
Life seems to be too short to have to lock down everything but society seems to have too many takers out for quick gain.
Andy Buzz
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My 12,000 sq. ft. showroom is on a major business road in Tampa with over 100,000 passing cars per day. At 2:30am, they bring a stolen SUV and a truck and a team to steal until the police arrives. Two of the three years years, a high speed chase has ensued. Last night was a chase with four thieves throwing my merchandise out of the open rear door of the SUV at the police car during a high speed chase that ended in a crash.
The police did apprehend one burglar with a long rap sheet and they say he is singing like a canary hoping for lesser charges. I have 16 digital cameras, six outdoor sirens, three piercing indoor sirens, and every trick security sensor available. Now I will have to install roll up grill doors in front of the glass and turn my retail store into a fortress to stop the madness.
Thieves threw over forty subwoofers and three large sub enclosures one at a time out the back door. Only one subwoofer was recovered. It was Christmas in May for cars passed by the Police as everyone stopped to gain what was dumped. All I can say is have the best locks on your trailer, block you trailer with a car if possible, purchase gps based recovery device for your boat, and find safe storage facility.
Life seems to be too short to have to lock down everything but society seems to have too many takers out for quick gain.
Andy Buzz
Buzz-Off Alarms
Maximum Audio
05-30-2004 | 02:59 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
Originally Posted by mobilecal
I do believe I would be waiting on them next year!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-30-2004 | 03:20 PM
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Re: Fu*%ing Theives
Oh I knew this was going to open a can of worms.
The state of NJ is saying why would a man walk out of his (safe house) out to his yard and shoot and kill a person with NO weapon. Who was ( maybe) ( probably) stealing his ATV. Where was this guy's life threatened? where was he ever in danger or fear ?Hmmmmmm Makes me wonder.
what if I'm walking up to the same exact truck as mine. since Dodge makes 10,000 + rams same color. Now some guy sees me trying to get in and shoots me because he ( Thought) I was going to steal his truck.
Sorry, But this guy in Nj had no right or reason to leave his house and blow this guys head off for stealing a ATV. if He gets away with it 100% that means now, we can blow a kids head off for stealing a lawn mower. Can you imagine if cops thought like this guy? They would be shooting ever person they pulled over " Oh I thought he was going to do something so I shot him anyway" Nah sorry but this guy was wrong.
The state of NJ is saying why would a man walk out of his (safe house) out to his yard and shoot and kill a person with NO weapon. Who was ( maybe) ( probably) stealing his ATV. Where was this guy's life threatened? where was he ever in danger or fear ?Hmmmmmm Makes me wonder.
what if I'm walking up to the same exact truck as mine. since Dodge makes 10,000 + rams same color. Now some guy sees me trying to get in and shoots me because he ( Thought) I was going to steal his truck.
Sorry, But this guy in Nj had no right or reason to leave his house and blow this guys head off for stealing a ATV. if He gets away with it 100% that means now, we can blow a kids head off for stealing a lawn mower. Can you imagine if cops thought like this guy? They would be shooting ever person they pulled over " Oh I thought he was going to do something so I shot him anyway" Nah sorry but this guy was wrong.
