Need Help With My "Boat"
10-12-2004 | 09:34 PM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
Phknlwyr: Mrs. Law here. Brett ran into a similar "boat" last year. Brett had hired a new "boat" who, unfortunately, misrepresented herself on her resume. After about eight months, when Brett was missing court because she couldn't schedule, clients were getting arrested because she was not filing the proper documents and deadlines were being missed, it became clear that she didn't have a clue as to what she was doing (I don't understand why it took Brett that long, so don't ask!) The best part was that she had a plaque made for her desk which read "Legal Specialist". Anyway, one weekend, a friend of mine and I (we are both paralegals) went into Brett's office and went through all the files. We tried to do as much as we could to catch up, but some things we just had to leave notes on the files and leave them on her desk. Well, it was like the Leaning Tower of Pisa by the time it was all said and done.
The following Monday she comes into work to find all this crap on her desk and it was clear she was not impressed. When she left for lunch, Brett was trying to zip the vital files in her computer so she would not do anything to them. He, like you Phkn, got curious and started snooping around the history and e-mails. The history revealed that all she ever did at work was shop (she was overpaid) and her e-mails revealed a message to a friend about how much of a ***** I was to come into her work space and order her to do things, and who the hell did I think I was worrying about her job when I had my own job. (as if I wanted to spend my weekend doing her work) Brett printed the e-mail and when she got back from lunch he asked her to come into his office. She told him she couldn't right then, knowing that he would have to leave soon for Court. After she refused to speak with him, he came by my office on the way to court and brought me the e-mail. He didn't want to leave the situation the way it was and frankly, he just wanted her gone, but didn't have time to say "You're Fired". So, I marched my ass down there and very calmly told her that I knew she was upset about the work I had done over the weekend but that Brett was really disappointed in her performance and I went down the laundry list of things she had done incorrectly. She denied being upset and that is when I pulled out the e-mail. At which point I told her that Brett also didn't appreciate her using his time to write personal e-mails and to shop. Her jaw dropped and she was left speechless. I calmly told her that none of us should continue to suffer and that it was best for her to go.
If I were you, (or your wife) I could never let it go. Cuda is right, if I had not had the satisfaction of cutting the ropes on Brett's boat, then the frustration would have eaten me alive and Brett would have never heard the end of it. I think the best thing to do is just sit down with her on Friday and tell her how much you appreciate the hard work she did this week, but you don't appreciate the thing she wrote in the thread (and then hand it to her). She will be left a feeling of shame and guilt. If you do something really outrageous, you and your wife might be the ones feeling guilty and ashamed in a few months when the anger wears off.
The following Monday she comes into work to find all this crap on her desk and it was clear she was not impressed. When she left for lunch, Brett was trying to zip the vital files in her computer so she would not do anything to them. He, like you Phkn, got curious and started snooping around the history and e-mails. The history revealed that all she ever did at work was shop (she was overpaid) and her e-mails revealed a message to a friend about how much of a ***** I was to come into her work space and order her to do things, and who the hell did I think I was worrying about her job when I had my own job. (as if I wanted to spend my weekend doing her work) Brett printed the e-mail and when she got back from lunch he asked her to come into his office. She told him she couldn't right then, knowing that he would have to leave soon for Court. After she refused to speak with him, he came by my office on the way to court and brought me the e-mail. He didn't want to leave the situation the way it was and frankly, he just wanted her gone, but didn't have time to say "You're Fired". So, I marched my ass down there and very calmly told her that I knew she was upset about the work I had done over the weekend but that Brett was really disappointed in her performance and I went down the laundry list of things she had done incorrectly. She denied being upset and that is when I pulled out the e-mail. At which point I told her that Brett also didn't appreciate her using his time to write personal e-mails and to shop. Her jaw dropped and she was left speechless. I calmly told her that none of us should continue to suffer and that it was best for her to go.
If I were you, (or your wife) I could never let it go. Cuda is right, if I had not had the satisfaction of cutting the ropes on Brett's boat, then the frustration would have eaten me alive and Brett would have never heard the end of it. I think the best thing to do is just sit down with her on Friday and tell her how much you appreciate the hard work she did this week, but you don't appreciate the thing she wrote in the thread (and then hand it to her). She will be left a feeling of shame and guilt. If you do something really outrageous, you and your wife might be the ones feeling guilty and ashamed in a few months when the anger wears off.
10-12-2004 | 09:58 PM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
Originally Posted by d-hlaw
If I were you, (or your wife) I could never let it go. Cuda is right, if I had not had the satisfaction of cutting the ropes on Brett's boat, then the frustration would have eaten me alive and Brett would have never heard the end of it. I think the best thing to do is just sit down with her on Friday and tell her how much you appreciate the hard work she did this week, but you don't appreciate the thing she wrote in the thread (and then hand it to her). She will be left a feeling of shame and guilt. If you do something really outrageous, you and your wife might be the ones feeling guilty and ashamed in a few months when the anger wears off.
As for the nanny...I would fire her and hand her the thread. Tell her that you don't appreciate giving her the opportunity to make extra money and her repaying you by creating more discontent in your office.
10-12-2004 | 10:08 PM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
well like they say, the two happiest days in an owners life is the day he gets the "boat" and the day he gets rid of the "boat". Just sit back and enjoy the fact that someone else will have to make the "boat" seaworthy. Go out and buy "wifey" an nice dinner 
10-12-2004 | 10:12 PM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
Mrs. Hartley:
Very sage advice. Jill was up at 4am today and could not go back to sleep because this was on her mind. I think that Jill needs the closure and that having her present the thread to Boat nee Barge will be a fine way to end things. Ah..the power of OSO.
Very sage advice. Jill was up at 4am today and could not go back to sleep because this was on her mind. I think that Jill needs the closure and that having her present the thread to Boat nee Barge will be a fine way to end things. Ah..the power of OSO.
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10-13-2004 | 05:57 AM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
A wise man once showed me www.dogdoo.com
Seriously with all the phkn lawsuits going on over employees now you DO NOT want to get into a pissing contest with her. My wife is a HR Manager for Johnson and Johnson and you would not believe some of the things that employees do. Consider yourself lucky and that she is gone, you do not have to pay for unemployeement, and she is some one elses problem. J+J has to go through about 50 freeking steps to get rid of people. I keep telling her that I can go down and take care of business for her
. You do not have empoyees to be your friends. Who cares if she hates you and your wife AS LONG as she did a good job. I always tried to be a friend to my empoyees and all it did was get them to take advantage of me being nice. SO I FIRED THEM ALL
Good luck and just be glad she is out of your life now.
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Seriously with all the phkn lawsuits going on over employees now you DO NOT want to get into a pissing contest with her. My wife is a HR Manager for Johnson and Johnson and you would not believe some of the things that employees do. Consider yourself lucky and that she is gone, you do not have to pay for unemployeement, and she is some one elses problem. J+J has to go through about 50 freeking steps to get rid of people. I keep telling her that I can go down and take care of business for her
. You do not have empoyees to be your friends. Who cares if she hates you and your wife AS LONG as she did a good job. I always tried to be a friend to my empoyees and all it did was get them to take advantage of me being nice. SO I FIRED THEM ALL Good luck and just be glad she is out of your life now.
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10-13-2004 | 07:00 AM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
Originally Posted by d-hlaw
Phknlwyr: Mrs. Law here. Brett ran into a similar "boat" last year. Brett had hired a new "boat" who, unfortunately, misrepresented herself on her resume. After about eight months, when Brett was missing court because she couldn't schedule, clients were getting arrested because she was not filing the proper documents and deadlines were being missed, it became clear that she didn't have a clue as to what she was doing (I don't understand why it took Brett that long, so don't ask!) The best part was that she had a plaque made for her desk which read "Legal Specialist". Anyway, one weekend, a friend of mine and I (we are both paralegals) went into Brett's office and went through all the files. We tried to do as much as we could to catch up, but some things we just had to leave notes on the files and leave them on her desk. Well, it was like the Leaning Tower of Pisa by the time it was all said and done.
The following Monday she comes into work to find all this crap on her desk and it was clear she was not impressed. When she left for lunch, Brett was trying to zip the vital files in her computer so she would not do anything to them. He, like you Phkn, got curious and started snooping around the history and e-mails. The history revealed that all she ever did at work was shop (she was overpaid) and her e-mails revealed a message to a friend about how much of a ***** I was to come into her work space and order her to do things, and who the hell did I think I was worrying about her job when I had my own job. (as if I wanted to spend my weekend doing her work) Brett printed the e-mail and when she got back from lunch he asked her to come into his office. She told him she couldn't right then, knowing that he would have to leave soon for Court. After she refused to speak with him, he came by my office on the way to court and brought me the e-mail. He didn't want to leave the situation the way it was and frankly, he just wanted her gone, but didn't have time to say "You're Fired". So, I marched my ass down there and very calmly told her that I knew she was upset about the work I had done over the weekend but that Brett was really disappointed in her performance and I went down the laundry list of things she had done incorrectly. She denied being upset and that is when I pulled out the e-mail. At which point I told her that Brett also didn't appreciate her using his time to write personal e-mails and to shop. Her jaw dropped and she was left speechless. I calmly told her that none of us should continue to suffer and that it was best for her to go.
If I were you, (or your wife) I could never let it go. Cuda is right, if I had not had the satisfaction of cutting the ropes on Brett's boat, then the frustration would have eaten me alive and Brett would have never heard the end of it. I think the best thing to do is just sit down with her on Friday and tell her how much you appreciate the hard work she did this week, but you don't appreciate the thing she wrote in the thread (and then hand it to her). She will be left a feeling of shame and guilt. If you do something really outrageous, you and your wife might be the ones feeling guilty and ashamed in a few months when the anger wears off.
The following Monday she comes into work to find all this crap on her desk and it was clear she was not impressed. When she left for lunch, Brett was trying to zip the vital files in her computer so she would not do anything to them. He, like you Phkn, got curious and started snooping around the history and e-mails. The history revealed that all she ever did at work was shop (she was overpaid) and her e-mails revealed a message to a friend about how much of a ***** I was to come into her work space and order her to do things, and who the hell did I think I was worrying about her job when I had my own job. (as if I wanted to spend my weekend doing her work) Brett printed the e-mail and when she got back from lunch he asked her to come into his office. She told him she couldn't right then, knowing that he would have to leave soon for Court. After she refused to speak with him, he came by my office on the way to court and brought me the e-mail. He didn't want to leave the situation the way it was and frankly, he just wanted her gone, but didn't have time to say "You're Fired". So, I marched my ass down there and very calmly told her that I knew she was upset about the work I had done over the weekend but that Brett was really disappointed in her performance and I went down the laundry list of things she had done incorrectly. She denied being upset and that is when I pulled out the e-mail. At which point I told her that Brett also didn't appreciate her using his time to write personal e-mails and to shop. Her jaw dropped and she was left speechless. I calmly told her that none of us should continue to suffer and that it was best for her to go.
If I were you, (or your wife) I could never let it go. Cuda is right, if I had not had the satisfaction of cutting the ropes on Brett's boat, then the frustration would have eaten me alive and Brett would have never heard the end of it. I think the best thing to do is just sit down with her on Friday and tell her how much you appreciate the hard work she did this week, but you don't appreciate the thing she wrote in the thread (and then hand it to her). She will be left a feeling of shame and guilt. If you do something really outrageous, you and your wife might be the ones feeling guilty and ashamed in a few months when the anger wears off.
Well said. You must be the voice of reason in your house.
10-13-2004 | 07:33 AM
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Re: Need Help With My "Boat"
How stupid can this boat be? She works for a phknlwyr and leaves a document trail of her misdoings. On the mother ship pc of all places. I recommend both Mr. and Mrs. Phknlwyr should sit down with large barge on Friday and hand her the thread. Tell her to consider her scuppers lucky for not being fired and black listed in the entire Chesapeake boating area.
As for the Nanny, she can go to hell in a bayliner!
As for the Nanny, she can go to hell in a bayliner!
10-13-2004 | 09:41 AM
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The witch costume, albeit funny - especially for this time of year, might be a little over the top.
Definitely print the thread and make sure she has it in her closing package of paperwork she probably has to sign before leaving. If you want to be creative, grade it. Comment on grammar, spelling and overall content. Both of you.
The final gotcha would be make sure the boat knows the new harbor master she'll be dealing with at her new port knows 100% of what went on. Infer it in conversation or come right out and say, but that alone should reverse the sleeplessness from you guys to her.
One last thing: GO RED SOX!!!
Definitely print the thread and make sure she has it in her closing package of paperwork she probably has to sign before leaving. If you want to be creative, grade it. Comment on grammar, spelling and overall content. Both of you.
The final gotcha would be make sure the boat knows the new harbor master she'll be dealing with at her new port knows 100% of what went on. Infer it in conversation or come right out and say, but that alone should reverse the sleeplessness from you guys to her.
One last thing: GO RED SOX!!!
