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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:07 PM
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Nobody, you are right, we are leaving some power on the table by not using the Pontiac heads. In our situation, they create more problems than they solve. They are hard on valvetrain components and the Indy manifold must be machined to accept the Whipple intercooler, since the water fittings come in through the front. I need the valvetrain to last for 100 hours. We are not trying to make max hp, just enough. I don't know if you are familiar with the Whipples, but they are a different animal then a roots. They are more efficient and do not generate the heat that a roots does. The intercooler does an excellent job of removing the heat. The 1400 has never seen over 130 degrees of intake air temp, even at 13 psi boost.
You don't want to get me started on blower eff. I guarantee I know more or just as much as anyone on this site.
If you want me and you can start a whole other thread about this topic.
As far as the heads go you obviously have never used any spreadport heads or you wouldn't be making those comments.
As far as your Whipple intercooler not fitting the manifold, with all the engineering going into testing lifters you could at least spend some money on a man. or intercooler.There are many sheet metal fab. guys that would be happy to help you with a manifold.
Remember guys----when it's all said and done and the warr. is up your the one that owns the motor. Don't spend 90 grand on a motor with cheaper parts just because they didn't want to build something custom. Your the one that will have to try to sell the motor when it's all over (that is unless they will buy it back).
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:08 PM
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Nobody, who are you ??
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lchornet
I'd say that he needs to stick to staying off OSO. Its not good for business to come on here and rant and rave. PR skills are needed when you are the new guys on the block. No offense, but he needs to work on them.



Agreed. Plus, as I said above the PR part. Calm and cool works a lot better than yelling. He's done that




My post of

"No offense, but some of the other posters need to calm down. When people protest too much, it makes it seem like they have something to hide."

was not aimed at you, "Nobody". It was aimed at the posters that were ranting in TMP's defense. I'm not selling anything either, and how people spend their money is up to them.
The reason I quoted you was not that I had beef, You gave what you learned from this thread so I was giving what I've learned on this thread.
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat
I had 1:1 gear ratio in a 42' cat that weighed 16,000 lbs. and I was way over proped 34" pitch 5 blade 17.5" dia. I was only turning 4100 rpm at the finish line at 109 now tell me tmp how much hp would it take to do that?
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I will quote myself again, if you know so much about motors and top secret lifters then how much hp do you think it would take to do that?
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:14 PM
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Nobody, who are you ??
Hopefully you'll never know.
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:18 PM
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Hopefully you'll never know.
Seems to me that you should identify yourself if your going to bad-mouth somebody. Its easy to hide behind a screen name and talk trash about a company and act like an expert. People that don't identify themselves have zero crediblity in my book.
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:22 PM
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You don't want to get me started on blower eff. I guarantee I know more or just as much as anyone on this site.
If you want me and you can start a whole other thread about this topic.
As far as the heads go you obviously have never used any spreadport heads or you wouldn't be making those comments.
As far as your Whipple intercooler not fitting the manifold, with all the engineering going into testing lifters you could at least spend some money on a man. or intercooler.There are many sheet metal fab. guys that would be happy to help you with a manifold.
Remember guys----when it's all said and done and the warr. is up your the one that owns the motor. Don't spend 90 grand on a motor with cheaper parts just because they didn't want to build something custom. Your the one that will have to try to sell the motor when it's all over (that is unless they will buy it back).
Nobody, the only thing that matters to the masses is reliability. The majority could care less how smart you are in motor combinations and what you have achieved. You cant even tell us who the hell you are, and don't give us anymore B.S. that its best that we don't know, it's more like at this point, we don't care. If you built motors for a living and sold them to guys like me, I would give you a little more credability. Like you said, your needed in the tech forum to help the guys that truely need your expertise. I havent seen you over there all day. Take care. Jeff
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:26 PM
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Seems to me that you should identify yourself if your going to bad-mouth somebody. Its easy to hide behind a screen name and talk trash about a company and act like an expert. People that don't identify themselves have zero credibility in my book.
I want 0 credibility. I don't want your respect.
Prove me wrong on anything I've said.
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:31 PM
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Nobody, the only thing that matters to the masses is reliability. The majority could care less how smart you are in motor combinations and what you have achieved. You cant even tell us who the hell you are, and don't give us anymore B.S. that its best that we don't know, it's more like at this point, we don't care. If you built motors for a living and sold them to guys like me, I would give you a little more credability. Like you said, your needed in the tech forum to help the guys that truely need your expertise. I havent seen you over there all day. Take care. Jeff
I know I've been hard on you I apologize.
I'm not looking for anybodies respect, just facts.
If I've said something wrong prove it.
Your right no one here cares about what they buy, that's one of the reasons I've said what I said because you average person just doesn't know if he's getting bent over or not.
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Old 02-27-2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NOBODY
You don't want to get me started on blower eff. I guarantee I know more or just as much as anyone on this site.
If you want me and you can start a whole other thread about this topic.
As far as the heads go you obviously have never used any spreadport heads or you wouldn't be making those comments.
As far as your Whipple intercooler not fitting the manifold, with all the engineering going into testing lifters you could at least spend some money on a man. or intercooler.There are many sheet metal fab. guys that would be happy to help you with a manifold.
Remember guys----when it's all said and done and the warr. is up your the one that owns the motor. Don't spend 90 grand on a motor with cheaper parts just because they didn't want to build something custom. Your the one that will have to try to sell the motor when it's all over (that is unless they will buy it back).
Ok, say if they were to make one, wouldnt this fall into the R&D catagory? Therefore wouldnt that be just as experimental? Have you done this for yourself? Just because they choose to use a formula that you may or may not particularly subscribe to, doesnt make them wrong. I'm no expert by any means, but if dustin Whipple is working with TMP on experimental stuff, then that blows holes in your theory, i would tend to think his reputation speaks for itself in the blower industry. I think TMP has a right to keep their combination to themselves. I've never purchased anything from them, but in the same respect, you're asking them to come off of trade secrets of their own, when you chose to remain anonymous, which is your choice, however it's just my opinion that if you want to be taken more seriously than just someone asking questions, it may be best to pull off the mask.
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