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JCPERF 03-01-2005 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stecz20
craig, are you taking my lines now.. pickle smooching, there is only one p.s., that cuda... and this new guy offshoredrilling.. hes an ass bandit.....

And your a turd burglar. :evilb: :eek:

thunderusone 03-01-2005 07:52 PM

Re: Miami Show TMP1600
 

Originally Posted by stecz20
craig, are you taking my lines now.. pickle smooching, there is only one p.s., that cuda... and this new guy offshoredrilling.. hes an ass bandit.....

Craig may have a touch of "Turd Burgler" in him.

Sean H 03-01-2005 07:52 PM

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you talk about pickle smooching enough and mr wonderful will show up... :D :evilb:

Byrdman 03-01-2005 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderusone
Hey there Chicken Hawk, where have you been hiding?

Thunder Chicken..to prove you wrong again and school ya a little...teach you that your still talking S H I T........I was working all day to pay for my toys so I can go use them...I like your knew name. :D

OldSchool 03-01-2005 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderusone
AAAHHH so you are from the sophisticated end of the state......thanks for the clarification. All of your pickle smooching talk is beginning to creep me out..........keep those latent tendencies in check. There are specialty websites for that....try picklesmoochers.com.

OK Corky...read t h i s s l o w l y, West Virginia is a different state than Virginia.

One more thing. Check your agreement that you agreed to when you signed up for your membership here on OSO. It's against the rules to try and promote your own website here without paying for advertising.

thunderusone 03-01-2005 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
Thunder Chicken..to prove you wrong again and school ya a little...teach you that your still talking S H I T........I was working all day to pay for my toys so I can go use them...I like your knew name. :D

Thunder Chicken and Chicken Hawk.....are we related? What does your mother look like? It is far fetched but....stranger things have happened.

stecz20 03-01-2005 08:04 PM

Re: Miami Show TMP1600
 

Originally Posted by JCPERF
And your a turd burglar. :evilb: :eek:


quiet before i give you a cup of shutup juice.......

JCPERF 03-01-2005 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stecz20
quiet before i give you a cup of shutup juice.......


stecz20 03-01-2005 08:09 PM

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you better hide, i think whipple is coming......

xxxtreme171 03-01-2005 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KaamaScarab30
O.K. Gotta chime in. No dog in the hunt, and I have never quite figured out what Open72's beef with TMP was about. But you obviously don't know the story on this one. I am a criminal defense attorney, and no one thinks less of a snitch than me, but Open72 was not involved in any of the judge's shennanigans. To the contrary, he was an outsider that was a thorn in the judge's side. While those that have met Open72 might tell you that planting drugs on him to get him out of your hair is justified, the judge in question did not know him well enough to make that call.

There has never been any allegation that Open72 was involved in any wrong-doing, and to infer that he commited a crime was trying to save his own hide shows you don't know the story. I think you owe him an apology. :cool:

Very well said. I think it took a lot of guts to do what he did. There is no place in the judicial system for a crooked judge.

thunderusone 03-01-2005 08:12 PM

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Well at least if you phuckers have not learned anything else from this exercise.....you are walking away with some new material. By the way it's quit.......not quite. Bust out the DICKtionary. I know yall are familier with that.

dreamboater 03-01-2005 08:17 PM

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What the hell happened to this thread???

Sean H 03-01-2005 08:18 PM

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it hasn't been about tmp or miami for about 5 pages now..... :rolleyes:

stecz20 03-01-2005 08:18 PM

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hey thunder who are you talking to?? with your quit, or quite...

Indy 03-01-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamboater
What the hell happened to this thread???

No kidding...

stecz20 03-01-2005 08:20 PM

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its no worse than the chicks and boats thread......

JCPERF 03-01-2005 08:21 PM

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Why, Do you want to see more Green motors? :evilb:

JCPERF 03-01-2005 08:21 PM

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If Cuda makes a post , I am outta here :evilb:

stecz20 03-01-2005 08:22 PM

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im with ya

JCPERF 03-01-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sutphen30
nothing :D :D

btw,tmp been working w/ a secret supplier to give a rolex with the 1200/1400/1600/1800/2000/2200/2400hp motor.pick boost,get some hp and a rolex. :D :D

:eek: :eek: :eek:

open87 03-01-2005 09:05 PM

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Rotflmao !!!! :D:D:D:D

Comanche3Six 03-01-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamboater
What the hell happened to this thread???

Nobody knows

offshoredrillin 03-01-2005 09:23 PM

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think it got way to serious? I was enjoying the knowledge, but then it went down hill, an epiphany maybe?

Sean H 03-01-2005 09:29 PM

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thunderusone 03-01-2005 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
:evilb:

WTF?

Sean H 03-01-2005 09:46 PM

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:D

Sean H 03-01-2005 09:47 PM

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:drink: :drink: even ronald has had enough..... :eek:

NOBODY 03-01-2005 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Whipple Charged
Nobody, yeah, we actually did the final assembly, why in the world would I lie about such a thing? I will give you a bit of info so you can get your facts straghit. Calling you out? Are you 2 or 5 years old? It's called facts, to claim to be an expert if you don't know what your talking about.

Did I assemble them? Not all of them, but I certainly did my fair share. THere was a team of 4 of us that once recertified over 100 R980's in 1 week. Just rebuilt one last week.
How many did we sale, 300 brand new units and some are still going today!
We rebuilt and or SFI recertified over 2000 (use to have to have SFI approval every year) over the years.
Why don't we build them anymore? THere was no need for them after NHRA's rule makers allowed PSI to continue to make changes after the "blower freeze" was made. We followed the rules, others did not. We also had to SFI spin test them every 2 years which cost $20,000 in order to be able to recertify the used SC's. This was pointless since we were out of the business. Once the rules were made, ours sales dropped instantly. Market fell out. We knew they would be needed in the future, but at the time, most of you guys were arguing about who had the best 1471 even though the screw compressor was setting records in every class it was allowed.
Why are we not building them now? Who says were not working on it? Were working on a bunch of new things, I'll leave it at that. The market wasn't ready for the 980's, now they are just getting there and there very expensive SC's, making 5-10 really doesn't make good business since. We have to build 25 at a time and they will still run over $8000. At this point, I would rather sale a couple of thousand mustang kits or 500HP's. I'm not sure how big of a market you think there is for such a supercharger, but it's no where near the smaller SC's.

How does racecrafters get away without calling them Whipples? How can I dictate what a consumer does with his property? Can you buy a Ford and take the logo off or will the Ford Police come arrest you, fine you and make you reinstall the logo? After all, it's a Ford?

Does Autorotor still make superchargers for us? No, it's actually Lysholm Technologies who cuts the rotors. We haven't used Autorotors since 1995.

As for your 2 blower theory, you need to do some research. Size does not equal efficiency and airflow can only give you a therotical power level. Put two M5's and you'll turn them so slow that the efficiency will be off the charts and not in a good way. Run the airflow up and sure, they may make more power if the engine can withstand it, point is what? It doesn't matter if you used 8 superchargers, if you flow a given amount of airflow more efficiently, than you have the ability to make more power or better yet, waste less energy operating the SC. So the point is, the dual 3.3 or Quad Rotor can generate cooler air more efficiently than the marine PSI at all power levels below 1600HP. Put a A980 on a 350 Mag and run 6lbs of boost, sorry, won't work really well. Instead of wasting the power robbed from the M5's why wouldn't you use turbos and get back all that power loss?

As for Mercury, I won't give you that type of information, but we own the rights to anything less than 5000 units per year, per application, pretty basic, have a 8 year contract. Also, not sure how many motors you think MR makes a year, but with that qty, nobody's getting rich. We sale approx. 12 times more SC's then they will. As for fuel both ways, I can tell you, as could the engineers who tested it at MR. It makes more power, both low end torque and top end HP. The best system is a blend and that depends on the amount of fuel, cylinder head design, etc. but running fuel through the SC under boost makes more power. It's a cooling median, gets prepared for better atomization and seals the rotor to casing tolerances for higher efficiency levels. The most efficient compressor is an oil flooded screw compressor because they use the oil as the sealing agent between the casing and rotors. THe final designs were with port injection only, but not for power reasons.

As for dyno pulls, I've been around 3000hp motors and plenty of top fuel motors at the track, not sure if you know, but I've been friends with Gary Scelzi ever since I was a little kid and that guy named Alan Johnson. My father owned a funny car called the "revelloution" with then driver Ed "the Ace" McCulloch, maybe you've heard of it? Or maybe you've heard of my grandfather, he had the first top fuel hydro to break 200mph, called Mr. Ed. So I've been around some pretty wild motors and I'm not even touching the TRD IMSA motors, TRD CART motors or anything of the sorts. I've been around racing my entire life and I didn't just go to the tracks, I got to work on cars, evaluate data, work with crew chiefs with our air fuel meters, R980 and A980, etc. I don't need to have a video showing my credibility, I'm brave enough to actually post my name.

I feel I do ok at EFI but then again my Dell laptop is missing its logo so they've been looking for me, they said I can't go around telling everybody it's a laptop, it has to be a Dell laptop. What am I going to do?

Not sure why your quizzing me, this is not a debate, as I said, I support our customers, after all, your nobody, right? Want answers to your questions, buy a supercharger that this information is applicable.

Dustin

First of all I'm almost 6, but I've learned alot in my first five years.
I don't know where your going with your 2 blower theory.
I thought we were talking about making BIG HP, not anything under 1600. I guarantee I could get 2 M5s to work.

When did I say the size of the supercharger= blower eff?
I said the size of the blower, in airflow and eff., are directly related to HP POTENTIAL POTENTIAL POTENTIAL.

As far as dyno pulls I said with your 3.3s by your side.
I don't see any (Fastest Street) cars using your 3.3s and I'm pretty sure their not outlawed.
All I see is turbos and round blowers making BIG BIG HP.
Where's Whipple?
I do agree they are very very eff. blowers and all I said was you needed a bigger one for the guy's trying to give people BIG HP in marine engines.
So bring back your 9.8s and maybe then TMP can make 1800 HP with 23 deg. heads.

I just thought if you knew everything about head selection, cam selection, compression ratios, Ect. for supercharged applications that you said in your first post - you could answer (as Richard C. put it) my ridiculous questions.

Thanks,
Dustin Whipple---------------I guess since I've owned a couple of your blowers you won't mind my name change

NOBODY 03-01-2005 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardCranium572
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...m572/jeeze.jpg

NOBODY asked:

I don't remember Dustin EVER saying he was/is a professional engine builder. Those ridiculous questions have tarnished my picture of you.

Let's do this, why don't YOU answer the questions and I'll bring the smack this time. :D :evilb:

I'll tell you what-- The questions were for Dustin, and I'll answer them in a couple day's.
Until then why don't you take a crack at them.

Thanks,
Dustin Whipple----------------------------Sh#t the cops are at my door

Young Performance 03-01-2005 10:57 PM

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This is amazing. All of this from a couple of engine pictures. What happened to a picture is worth a thousand words? Bettter change that to a picture is worth 13 pages of words.
Thanks to everyone on this site that support us. It is greatly appreciated. We are going to continue to do just what we have been doing, pushing the limits to build the best possible engine that we can. To all of you that do not support us, thank you to. We value both the critisisms and the compliments. They help us to create a better product.

I don't think that I am needed on this thread anymore, you guys seem to have it under control. Thanks again, Eddie

NOBODY 03-01-2005 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TMP racing
This is amazing. All of this from a couple of engine pictures. What happened to a picture is worth a thousand words? Bettter change that to a picture is worth 13 pages of words.
Thanks to everyone on this site that support us. It is greatly appreciated. We are going to continue to do just what we have been doing, pushing the limits to build the best possible engine that we can. To all of you that do not support us, thank you to. We value both the critisisms and the compliments. They help us to create a better product.

I don't think that I am needed on this threas anymore, you guys seem to have it under control. Thanks again, Eddie

The only thing I've got to say is TMP can sure handle yourselves professionally, we might disagree about how to get big numbers but if you keep up the professionalism your bound to make it big!

Semper Fi 03-02-2005 12:40 AM

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This thread WENT TO $HIT :mad:

SpeedJunkie 03-02-2005 03:08 AM

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Geeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzz that was long!

Since I finished it in one night do I get a Prize???

But I do have a complaint to the boyz at TMP......
buy that dog a chew toy and I don't mean a 2" x 4"

Been in the shop on different occasions was impressed by what I saw.......

Hope to see some great numbers from yall this season

marin068 03-02-2005 08:20 AM

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So bring back your 9.8s and maybe then TMP can make 1800 HP with 23 deg. heads.
lol...don't forget the green paint...the best part of this thread now is that eddie is the one responding and steve's not!

JCPERF 03-02-2005 09:05 AM

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The end result that everyone should know out of this thread, is that when you come on this site and you pull your pants down everyone finds out.I wish TMP all the best.Now the motors they build will eventually be put in boats and with the kind of #s they have they should be able to push the boundaries of speed just as well.So look out REGGIE,FIORE, and DAVID SCOTT as well.IF,AND I MEAN IF,they do infact make 1800HP they will be the new sheriff in the boating world.If the motors live in the marine environment,they will have so many orders for motors that they wont know what to do. :D

DoTheMath 03-02-2005 09:27 AM

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See, as soon as you mentioned Apache - BAM! Right down the crapper it went! :D :evilb: :D It a sweet boat with an evil curse on this web site :p

In the end - I still stand behind my theory that TMP will be the next house-hold name in marine performance along with Mike D'Anniballe, Richie Zul and Keith Eickert... All looking to and succeeding at taking marine performance to a higher ground. :cool:

offshoredrillin 03-02-2005 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DoTheMath
See, as soon as you mentioned Apache - BAM! Right down the crapper it went! :D :evilb: :D It a sweet boat with an evil curse on this web site :p

In the end - I still stand behind my theory that TMP will be the next house-hold name in marine performance along with Mike D'Anniballe, Richie Zul,Keith Eickert and JC "sox and slippers" Performance:D ... All looking to and succeeding at taking marine performance to a higher ground. :cool:

this fits:evilb:

DoTheMath 03-02-2005 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
this fits:evilb:

Nice edit on that post... BTW, I thought he looked dashing in those "slippers" - lol!!! :D

vette131 03-02-2005 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by open72
well jassman , after thinking about your response , i fell that i should at least give a statement , because alot of oso members probably don't know what i did and you try to make me appear in a gray light.

that dog ain't huntin'.

yes , i was cooperating with the fbi and the united states department of justice in a corruption investigation into criminal activites in a state court. i was involved from
august 1999 to april 2004. i was very instrumental in helping catch a crooked judge. he attempted to have me killed and settled on planting illegal narcotics in my truck among other crimes .he is now serving a 42 month sentance in federal prision.

thank you for reminding me about my dedication to our country.

now back to our reguarly scheduled program.

open i comend you for your testimony, however i question the wisdom of such a high profile on a web site the judges friends
are sure to frequent. posting pictures of yourself & showing pictures of your home doesn't sound too smart when a powerful man tried to have you killed. it's hard to protect a witness when they make themselves an easy target.

X-Rated30 03-02-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vette131
open i comend you for your testimony, however i question the wisdom of such a high profile on a web site the judges friends
are sure to frequent. posting pictures of yourself & showing pictures of your home doesn't sound too smart when a powerful man tried to have you killed. it's hard to protect a witness when they make themselves an easy target.

Everyone in the case already knows who he is. There is even a civil case going on.


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