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07DominatorSS 09-11-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3774467)
What an incredible thread! All these years boating (about 30) I've used manufacturer recommendations only and I see a lot of other possibilities now!

Not that manuf recs are necessarily bad. Lets start with Mercury. How many Mercury oils are there?

At least three...
1 Original 25W-40
2 Blended semi synthethic 25W-40
3 Full synthetic 20W-40

Which one would be the best for 500/525EFI engines? I heard the most recent full synthetic Mercury oil has less antiwear additives (Zn, P) because of catalytic converter issues. Well, most of us don't have cats and want the best oil.

What about AMSoil Dominator 15W-50, Bob Teague's current racing choice? He runs 525's. They change oil after every race. Can you use this for 20-25 hours for average to hard recreational use?

Thanks, Andy

I've used the Dominator in my HO's for 65 hours+ and after oil analysis, was still perfect for continued use.

DRP 10-02-2012 02:48 PM

Is there an update/change in oils on the top five (in order) oils? I am looking for a good oil for a blower motor. I was told to just stick with merc oil. Also, what would be a better practice...buying a cheaper (above recommended) oil and changing after about 15-20 hours or using a better/best oil and changing once a season? FYI, my season is about 25 hours. Thanks!

DRP 10-14-2012 11:37 AM

Anyone???

07DominatorSS 10-14-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bad-Influence (Post 3795586)
Anyone???

The AMSOIL Dominator 15w-50 is great for a blower application due to the additive package that is in the oil.

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd50.aspx

I would stick with a 50weight oil of some sort, specifically a synthetic, because they can battle the potential fuel dilution you may incur due to the blower.

HCDCanada 10-14-2012 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bad-Influence (Post 3788711)
Is there an update/change in oils on the top five (in order) oils? I am looking for a good oil for a blower motor. I was told to just stick with merc oil. Also, what would be a better practice...buying a cheaper (above recommended) oil and changing after about 15-20 hours or using a better/best oil and changing once a season? FYI, my season is about 25 hours. Thanks!

Lucas has a full line of high performance marine oils as well and there price is very competitive. http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...id=38&catid=24

Pismo10 10-14-2012 07:26 PM

Seems as tho dilution is the big problem with blowers so frequent changes is the key. 15-20 hour intervals from what i have read. You could probably stretch a bit to your 25hr seasons and just change once per season. Keep track tho and dont go too far over.

SS930 08-08-2014 06:02 AM

Any updates on this topic? Great thread on a topic we all have a vested interest in...

JRider 05-20-2016 06:20 AM

So, thought I should dig this old thread up. Ordered WIX racing filters, now I need to decide on an oil. My new motors are 548 CI blown motors so fuel delusion will be a factor. I know there are a lot of good oils out there, what is currently the best bang for the buck?

Pismo10 05-20-2016 07:11 AM

Still going with Wix racing filter and VR1. $5-6 a qt works for me.

minxguy 05-24-2016 06:36 AM

With fuel dilution a possible issue, a 20w50 for sure and make sure your oil temp is over 180 to wick off any of the fuel.

Ken

Boatally Insane 05-24-2016 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4441144)
I know there are a lot of good oils out there, what is currently the best bang for the buck?


http://www.drivenracingoilsales.com/...nce-motor-oil/

http://www.drivenracingoil.com/media.../0/2/02606.jpg

JRider 05-24-2016 10:42 AM

I went with Brad Penn 20-50.

Yours is the second recommendation I have had for Driven, maybe next oil change.

Boatally Insane 05-24-2016 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4442608)
I went with Brad Penn 20-50.

Yours is the second recommendation I have had for Driven, maybe next oil change.


At least Driven isn't GREEN...

I used Brad Penn for my initial fill / Dyno run and now switched to Driven.. we'll see how it fares.. Be in the water for the first time this weekend.. :)

Baja Rooster 05-24-2016 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by minxguy (Post 4442501)
With fuel dilution a possible issue, a 20w50 for sure and make sure your oil temp is over 180 to wick off any of the fuel.

Ken

The easiest place for me to tap an oil temp gauge is off the outgoing port of the filter head. Is this still an adequate place to tap in to or have things chilled by then?

SB 05-24-2016 11:44 AM

$11 a quart. Yikes.

SB 05-24-2016 11:49 AM

$5.45 a quart: http://amzn.com/B00DJ4FIPQ
Sometimes Oreilly's and Advanced has it cheaper.

Still waiting for someone to prove or even think lubrication issues using this.

Valvoline VR-1 racing motor oils are recommended for engines burring gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Use in any car, light truck, van or SUV where API SN is recommended
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
Enhanced with friction modifier to improve horsepower
Formulated with enhanced anti-foam system

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jDJWteQML.jpg

Gimme Fuel 05-24-2016 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4442637)
$5.45 a quart: http://amzn.com/B00DJ4FIPQ
Sometimes Oreilly's and Advanced has it cheaper.

Still waiting for someone to prove or even think lubrication issues using this.

Valvoline VR-1 racing motor oils are recommended for engines burring gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Use in any car, light truck, van or SUV where API SN is recommended
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
Enhanced with friction modifier to improve horsepower
Formulated with enhanced anti-foam system

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jDJWteQML.jpg

That is still one fantastic conventional oil. Always does real well in tests. One of my go-to choices.

Boatally Insane 05-24-2016 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4442636)
$11 a quart. Yikes.

.
I'm hoping to be able to extend my oil change intervals by changing the filter regularly
then sample / change the oil only as needed... :)

class6 05-24-2016 08:33 PM

I Have switched every thing I own over to Rotella T 15-40. I own a excavation company and all the equipment we used Rotella all the time. I noticed one day I was cleaning the funnels I used with brake clean (the good red CRC) and it wouldn't rinse the oil out with out wiping it in between spraying the brake clean. Later that day I was doing the oil change on my car and went to clean the funnel with Mobil 1. No wiping needed. Brake clean washed it clean in 1 spray. Since that day Rotella T in everything, Boat, equipment, car truck and even the Race Bikes and lawn Mower

Pismo10 05-25-2016 09:31 AM

Rotella is a Great idea. The liberal bureaucracy has not gotten to diesel oils yet and screwed them up..

class6 05-25-2016 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Pismo10 (Post 4442953)
Rotella is a Great idea. The liberal bureaucracy has not gotten to diesel oils yet and screwed them up..

I have been using it in a Harley road glide 103. They are mechanically loud motor. It much quieter. Also run it in the trans and primary. Clutch feels better and shifts awesome. No more big clunk

JRider 05-25-2016 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Boatally Insane (Post 4442622)
At least Driven isn't GREEN...

I used Brad Penn for my initial fill / Dyno run and now switched to Driven.. we'll see how it fares.. Be in the water for the first time this weekend.. :)

I like the green, it is a nice indicator if there is a leak...seeing that power steering, trim, and tabs have same colored fluid.

SB 05-25-2016 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Pismo10 (Post 4442953)
Rotella is a Great idea. The liberal bureaucracy has not gotten to diesel oils yet and screwed them up..

Yes, they have. Rotella was one of the last hold outs to change. But they got forced to. It is still a real good oil, but it is not what it used to be. Same thing with Delo.

Black Baja 05-25-2016 11:52 AM

You guys put entirely to much time and energy into what oil to use and who's is best. I've never had an engine failure do to oil. The most important thing about oil is you change it. The richer the motor is the more often it needs changed. If you don't have a motor that is set in kill mode and dumping fuel into it to make it live you can make it a season without an oil change. 100 times more important than what brand oil is going in the motor is what oil filter is going to be used. If you collapse a filter your done. And due to the design of some filters they just don't flow any oil and become a huge restriction in the system which usually leads to a collapsed filter, empty wallet and a wife that tells you to get rid of the dumb thing.

Hint: $2/qt 20/50 oil works just as well as $10/qt 20/50 oil in motors that aren't being fuel diluted to stay alive.

Baja Rooster 05-25-2016 03:56 PM

Any thoughts on this particular filter? I usually use Wix but moved up to the HP6 size and this is what I found most easily available. I'm mostly concerned with the media being able to handle the typical moisture found in boats. Also using Brad Penn 10/40 in the ZZ502 motor.
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/t...5555851065.png

minxguy 05-29-2016 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4442632)
The easiest place for me to tap an oil temp gauge is off the outgoing port of the filter head. Is this still an adequate place to tap in to or have things chilled by then?

Sorry for the slow response... that is where I put mine. I wont loose that much heat from the pan.

Ken

minxguy 05-29-2016 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Pismo10 (Post 4442953)
Rotella is a Great idea. The liberal bureaucracy has not gotten to diesel oils yet and screwed them up..

Don't kid yourself, the zinc levels in Rotella, like the rest of our major brands of oils has dropped.

Ken

Cole2534 05-31-2016 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4442637)
$5.45 a quart: http://amzn.com/B00DJ4FIPQ
Sometimes Oreilly's and Advanced has it cheaper.

Still waiting for someone to prove or even think lubrication issues using this.

Valvoline VR-1 racing motor oils are recommended for engines burring gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Use in any car, light truck, van or SUV where API SN is recommended
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
Enhanced with friction modifier to improve horsepower
Formulated with enhanced anti-foam system

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jDJWteQML.jpg

Picked up a (2) 6-packs for $65 recently, good stuff.

bck 06-01-2016 02:11 PM

I think from glancing at these threads periodically that Mobile V Twin has remained a top choice. Is this still the case?

minxguy 06-02-2016 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4445040)
I think from glancing at these threads periodically that Mobile V Twin has remained a top choice. Is this still the case?

Yes, Mobil V-Twin is still a decent oil, but nothing like it was 5 years ago.

Ken

Boatally Insane 06-02-2016 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4443031)
You guys put entirely to much time and energy into what oil to use and who's is best. I've never had an engine failure do to oil..

Me neither.. But the way I see it... $11 a quart for the oil I'm using is CHEAP compared to the 4 years of buying / selling & doing side work to come up with the $15,000 I spent to build my engine.... :)

Cole2534 06-02-2016 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by minxguy (Post 4445263)
Yes, Mobil V-Twin is still a decent oil, but nothing like it was 5 years ago.

Ken

Upon what objective data do you stake that claim, sir?

SFOcean 06-02-2016 06:42 PM

Mobil 1™ VTwin (from their product data sheet updated Feb 2016);
Viscosity 20W‐50
Nominal Phosphorus Level, PPM 1600
Nominal Zinc Level, PPM 1750

bck 06-02-2016 07:28 PM

V-Twin used to be- zinc 1823 P 1683

Knot 4 Me 06-03-2016 09:12 AM

I use the following recipe:

1 quart Slick 50
1 bottle ZMax
1 bottle Lucas Oil Treatment
1 bottle STP Oil Treatment
1 can Motor Honey
top off remaining capacity with 10W40 Blue Velvet.

:party-smiley-004:

minxguy 06-03-2016 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4445541)
V-Twin used to be- zinc 1823 P 1683

Thank you,

Ken

bck 06-03-2016 12:01 PM

I think that was actually measured by a sample, not a stated amount. Be interesting to see a current sample.


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