How do I get ahold of Vandy? I have break-in oil now, but will need some within a month. Thanks.

Well, I havent even been able to find any Mobil 1 15W 50 at any Walmart lately. Not even listed on the shelves anymore.

I was at Napa the other day and noticed they have their own 15W50 Synthetic at around $4.50/qt. Anybody know who makes it for them?

I just ask my Napa guy and he said is it has a Napa label its made by Valvoline.

If you scroll back a few pages you will see his posts and can pm him. Craig is a great guy as is his family.

V-Twin has been run as far out to 50 hours under moderately hard to hard offshore use and it did very well. So from what I see 50hrs with Mobil-1 15W-50 EP or V-Twin is being proven as a great consideraiton in non-blown engines. You blower guys dump too much fuel into the oil and need frequent changes...

I am underimpressed with Penzoil or Valvoline's additives.

I doubt if NAPA is selling a true full synthetic (group 4 basestock) for 4.50/qt. My guess is that it is a group 3. Mobil is a refiner and they sell a full syn product for almost twice that. NAPA can't do it. Ken

It's not that the additives are bad, it's there is just not enough of them. Ken

They seem to blend everything the same..from automobile oil to racing oil formulations....

Many Valvoline formulations have 300ppm Zinc and 400 PPM Phos...very very low..expect an offshore engine to show lots of wear.

M-1 is usually at 1200 Zn-1300Ph

V-Twin 1800 Zn 1850 Ph

I would run conventional Castrol or Kendall before I ran Valvoline syn products.