Panther

My cam was a Lunati cam as well. I heard the metal quality of the lifter/china is what makes them go bad.

I believe we put Comp lifters with the oil hole in afterwards.

Wobble

The reason I ask is because that type of damage is often caused by the push rod getting up on the edge of the lifter for various reasons

SB

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Nope. Last I heard was Bullet Cams. Maybe this has changed again by now ?

birdog

That sucks....I am an Ultradyne fan from way back...Had a set of flat tappet Ultradynes in my last boat also.

articfriends

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All thru the 90's I used Ultradyne flat tappet cams in dozens of motors before they closed and got bought by Lunati with no failures,we didn't even pizz around with leaving the inner spring out or use low ratio rockers,just fired them up and kept between 2000-2500 rpm's for 15-20 minutes then change out the oil. Times have changed in past 5 years though,a local engine builder has seen virtually every brand of flat tappet fail in past 2 years and I keep hearing of cam failures from all the big names,I think it hinges on the lack of zddp in the oil although tonights the first time I heard cam cores are being made in China.I have also heard that Harold is on his own with a new cam company. Sorry about your bad luck,you'll like the hyd rollers better anyways,Smitty

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You can see him posting on www.teamchevelle.com.

One thing I remember about his race cams he allways have very steep ramps,tuff on valve train but they made the power


IMO Lunati did him wrong !!! I think the Vodoo line was all his cam specks


I have never used a flat tapet cam ,I would use the hydraulic or go straight to the solid rollers in my cars . I never saw a need for inbetween. I started using hyd roller just in the boats and almost wish I had gone with a solid roller in my last Whipple motors.But I was told not realy a need because of making more power than these drives could handle .My Chevelle street car had a Crower soild roller for the last 10 years and the only thing I have replaced is the tappets wear out with the miles...


Maybe Chris Straub will chime in about the China cores.I would say half ?? the stuff now days come for over seas

team Tickfaw goodluck with the motors

Rob

MOP

"articfriends" posted the importance of bringing the revs up right away, they need the oil spash to survive break in! Idle it and you will kill a flat tappet cam.

team Tickfaw

Have been out of touch alittle, back at work offshore. Have spoken to everyone in Bullet/ultradyne. They are not going to warrenty the cam. Said it was not a cam issue. Maybe not. The lifters that were bad.....said they do not have a warrenty on them????? After discussing situation with the owner he would agree to sell me 2 sets of roller lifters at halph price. They are NOT made by bullett. Said he could do me a better deal on a replacement roller cam that they build but quite frankly told him I did not trust their products.
Don't know why the lifters cam apart. So far have not found anything abnormal. Hope to have all the parts in this week to start replacing. Will be getting whatever I can from Bob Madera.
Strip poker...you still in Jackson? Do you do the royal Purple run on the tickfaw? Just wondering, this is where I boat at when I'm home.

Strip Poker 388

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Ya cant go wrong with Bob's advice and parts remonedations!!!Yes I am in Jackson MS. We have been doing the Royal Purple Poker Run for over 6-7 years. Its a lot of fun .

Are you letting the same guy build/put together your motors????

Rob

cstraub

Lifters have been the issue. The industry had a large hickup a few years back with one supplier getting shut down by uncle same for tax reasons and another just stopping production. So 50% of mfg was gone in less then 4 months time.

Also everything is no roller or overhead cam. Cam companies don't buy a drop in the bucket compared to what OEM's use to buy. In the 70's and 80's V-8 flat tappet lifters were produced in the millions. The aftermarket doesn't even come close to using a million a year. So production of these parts are now back burner.

New/Old mfgs have gotten into the game but without the OEM's standing on their heads with PPM QC levels the stuff out their is just not what it use to be. Compound this with BBC lifter bore angles usally being out a few degrees and flat tappet profiles these days are like Russian Roulette.

Cam cores come from 3 major suppliers here in the states. I do know of a Turkish supplier and few in Asia that are trying to do business here. For the most part X, Y, and Z cams all come from 1 of the 3 suppliers.

Hyd roller is what I recommend. RM is great to deal with and will get you the best parts for what you want to do I am sure.

Harold is working for a Nascar affiliated team and working out of his house at present day. He has nothing to do with his old Ultradyne of years ago or Lunati where he was up until about this time last year.