Drive Temperature Sensor
#52
I think my math must be wrong? 1000 X $79.00 = $79,000.00?
That's quite a nice return. Now my question is for that kind of profit couldn't the end product be a better quality? Say a stainless sender instead of brass and the corded wires. I commend your product so far and I am deffinitely following you but I can't see that thing on the back of my boat. Now maybe an all out race boat it might not matter but we all have alot invested in our rides and well frankly it's ugly. I'm sorry for always going back to the gear smart piece but it did have a stainless sender with threaded fitting that screwed into the drive like a brake line, follow? The wires where sealed and twisted like a phone cord in a colored plastic and passed thru a stainless thru hull fitting. the wire was at least 50' long. It came with a guage and a video taped installation instructions. Cost was about $200. Seemed like a real nice complete set up packged real nice for resale. Now how much are we really adding to the mfg. costs? By the way are you looking for 2 more investors other than yourself or in addition too? The sender looks nice, are you mfg. them completely from scratch or is it a purchased item. I would like some more information on what the process is before I sign you over a check. Nobody goes in blind. please give me/us more info. Thanks! Bill
That's quite a nice return. Now my question is for that kind of profit couldn't the end product be a better quality? Say a stainless sender instead of brass and the corded wires. I commend your product so far and I am deffinitely following you but I can't see that thing on the back of my boat. Now maybe an all out race boat it might not matter but we all have alot invested in our rides and well frankly it's ugly. I'm sorry for always going back to the gear smart piece but it did have a stainless sender with threaded fitting that screwed into the drive like a brake line, follow? The wires where sealed and twisted like a phone cord in a colored plastic and passed thru a stainless thru hull fitting. the wire was at least 50' long. It came with a guage and a video taped installation instructions. Cost was about $200. Seemed like a real nice complete set up packged real nice for resale. Now how much are we really adding to the mfg. costs? By the way are you looking for 2 more investors other than yourself or in addition too? The sender looks nice, are you mfg. them completely from scratch or is it a purchased item. I would like some more information on what the process is before I sign you over a check. Nobody goes in blind. please give me/us more info. Thanks! Bill
#53
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From: Bradenton Florida
That's what I thought when I started this process last year. The painful fact is you can't have the sensor designed and manufactured in the US cost effectively. If I could I would. So all of my expense is for overseas manufacturing and what R&D I have put into it. Couple that with the minimum purchase requirement and you're up to $10,000.00
I can buy those senders in stainless for ( 15 bucks each )
Thru hull,,,,,4 bucks ,,heatshrink tube 10 bucks (for a real long one ) and gauge 40-50 bucks !!!
Ok 20 feet 14 gauge wire ( 5bucks ) ?
mmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#54
I don't get it ,,,,wy would sombody reevent the wheel ????
I can buy those senders in stainless for ( 15 bucks each )
Thru hull,,,,,4 bucks ,,heatshrink tube 10 bucks (for a real long one ) and gauge 40-50 bucks !!!
Ok 20 feet 14 gauge wire ( 5bucks ) ?
mmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I can buy those senders in stainless for ( 15 bucks each )
Thru hull,,,,,4 bucks ,,heatshrink tube 10 bucks (for a real long one ) and gauge 40-50 bucks !!!
Ok 20 feet 14 gauge wire ( 5bucks ) ?
mmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhh


You all never mind about the investment opportunity. I'll figure something else out, I not going to waste any more if your time.
Last edited by Trippin; 02-28-2009 at 08:39 PM.
#55
I think it is a good idea. I like the design, I understand you are going to make it in stainless & I hope you can make it happen affordably.
If it were mine, I'd have the wires braided up in stainless. I also understand it is a prototype.
Good luck making it happen!
If it were mine, I'd have the wires braided up in stainless. I also understand it is a prototype.
Good luck making it happen!
#56
I don't think your wasting our time. I am very interested in seeing this product out on the market again. I don't think that anyone else is producing one that I can find. But the questions arrise when you say your looking for investors but offer little in the way of what is to be gained in the investment? Therefore the questions.
Dare devil, I would be very interested in getting a few of those sending units in stainless. I have the thru huls and gauges from the Gear Smart units I had and the senders and wires is all I am lacking. I would appreciate it if you could give me a source on them. You can PM me if possible, Thanks!
Trippen, keep working on your version and keep us posted. We are all interested. I just hope someone doesn't beat you to it. Elite was working on something, so he said, but seems to have dropped the ball. Haven't heard anything about it from him and his site still has the old Livorsi units listed. I wonder what would happen if I ordered them from his site? Maybe they would find a few senders on a shelf someplace?
Dare devil, I would be very interested in getting a few of those sending units in stainless. I have the thru huls and gauges from the Gear Smart units I had and the senders and wires is all I am lacking. I would appreciate it if you could give me a source on them. You can PM me if possible, Thanks!
Trippen, keep working on your version and keep us posted. We are all interested. I just hope someone doesn't beat you to it. Elite was working on something, so he said, but seems to have dropped the ball. Haven't heard anything about it from him and his site still has the old Livorsi units listed. I wonder what would happen if I ordered them from his site? Maybe they would find a few senders on a shelf someplace?
#57
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So why aren't you capitilizing on your ability to make the sensor yourself, market it and do something with it. I'm not "reevent" ing anything, I'm taking an idea I had and making a go of it if. If you can buy my sensor design in stainless for 15.00 then you need to go ahead and do this yourself. Maybe you should buy one of those sensors and verify that it is the same before making that statement. If it were that easy I'd have done it already.
You all never mind about the investment opportunity. I'll figure something else out, I not going to waste any more if your time.
You all never mind about the investment opportunity. I'll figure something else out, I not going to waste any more if your time.
Like i said ,,,sorry,,but with the re invention (or how ever u call it ) i ment that it would be probable easyer to talk to somebody that had in the product line and cheaper to have him throw it back out on the market.
#58
Well to provide a temproary means to test for the drive temperature a modified Livorsi oil temperature sensor seems to work. The Hex head had to be cut down to clear the ID of the drive's oil fill hole recess. This additional mod is not shown in the sensor mod picture attached.
Recorded 270F at 5800 rpm run with the drive shower shown.
Recorded 270F at 5800 rpm run with the drive shower shown.
#60
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Well to provide a temproary means to test for the drive temperature a modified Livorsi oil temperature sensor seems to work. The Hex head had to be cut down to clear the ID of the drive's oil fill hole recess. This additional mod is not shown in the sensor mod picture attached.
Recorded 270F at 5800 rpm run with the drive shower shown.
Recorded 270F at 5800 rpm run with the drive shower shown.



