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Boat1 01-27-2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing163.1 (Post 3309078)
What he said :eek:

for some reason i just like Radical/agressive cams and adjusting Valve lash all the time .:party-smiley-004:

That's what makes boating truely special!!

Philm 01-28-2011 10:03 AM

That should make some good power. Hopefully you are going Hydraulic. the reduction in maintenance isnt huge, but in the long run they are much easier on the valve train as a whole.

The solid cam that I have is a .697/.697 262/272 @ 50 with a 112LSA. It also has the 7/4 swap. It made 800hp at 6300rpm in a 598ci.

Uncle Dave 01-28-2011 12:02 PM

Phil- didnt you end up needing a vacuum pump?

I remember talking about your monster BB earlier.

I would think Ken should likely provision for one as well.

"Uncle" Dave Sampson

Philm 01-28-2011 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3310025)
Phil- didnt you end up needing a vacuum pump?

I remember talking about your monster BB earlier.

I would think Ken should likely provision for one as well.

"Uncle" Dave Sampson

Nope, the blowby I was getting was crazy. Even with 6" breather extensions it was still blowing a quart of oil out every two hours or so. I was thinking of installing a puke tank or a vacuum system to help with this problem that was, as per the builder, "just a little crank windage".:lolhit:

Best thing that happened was dropping a valve and forcing a rebuild. When i picked the motor up from Rudy Dryden last June, he handed me a bag full of the breather extensions and said "I dont know what you want to do with these, but you dont need them anymore." Turns out the top ring gaps were HUGE, and all over the place, resulting in 12-15% leak downs at 59 hours and massive blowby. After Rudy rebuilt it, it blows by ZERO oil, even during long WOT runs. What happened to the windage?? I dont know either.

So no, no vacuum pump for me, just a competent rebuild job.:coolcowboy:

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-28-2011 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Philm (Post 3310238)
Nope, the blowby I was getting was crazy. Even with 6" breather extensions it was still blowing a quart of oil out every two hours or so. I was thinking of installing a puke tank or a vacuum system to help with this problem that was, as per the builder, "just a little crank windage".:lolhit:

Best thing that happened was dropping a valve and forcing a rebuild. When i picked the motor up from Rudy Dryden last June, he handed me a bag full of the breather extensions and said "I dont know what you want to do with these, but you dont need them anymore." Turns out the top ring gaps were HUGE, and all over the place, resulting in 12-15% leak downs at 59 hours and massive blowby. After Rudy rebuilt it, it blows by ZERO oil, even during long WOT runs. What happened to the windage?? I dont know either.

So no, no vacuum pump for me, just a competent rebuild job.:coolcowboy:

Congratz BIG Daddy :drink: Rudy knows his stuff and he just finished another 1 just like yours that was Brand new & came from here in ill .

RunninHotRacing163.1 01-28-2011 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ken sampson (Post 3309038)
I did get to talk with Bob. However he was running out the door to catch a plane. I have decided to call Crane cam and based on my build this is what they came up with.
690 Lift 262/274 @ 50 LS 114 with 1.8 rockers.
I wish I knew enough to say go ahead. Bob will be back in town early next week so I guess I should wait.
Thanks

Ken you'r gunna end up with 250/258 @ 50 112 :ernaehrung004:

ken sampson 01-28-2011 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing163.1 (Post 3310280)
Ken you'r gunna end up with 250/258 @ 50 112 :ernaehrung004:

So are you also thinking less lift? I know when I talked to Bob he said 114 to 115 plus 6 LS due to the EFI set up.I'm not sure what the plus 6 means.

GPM 01-29-2011 11:44 AM

Advanced 6 degrees in the motor.

Boat1 01-29-2011 11:48 AM

The plus 6 LS probably means a six degree lobe separation split between the intake and exhaust centerline. A 114 LSA camshaft as an example, would be 250 degree Intake / 256 degree Exhaust @ .050 lift (Thus six degree split) then the intake centerline would be at 108 degree and the exhaust centerline at 120 degree (Thus six degree split) for 114 LSA. I'm just guessing about his terminology, but this is common for custom camshafts. I don't use Bob Madera (Marine Kinetics) for my camshafts, but I highly recommend him for his knowledge and ability to provide competitive pricing on components. I would definately wait for his recommendations and compare them to the Crane info. He has extensive marine experience. Good Luck.

Young Performance 01-29-2011 12:54 PM

The plus 6 means there will be 6 deg. of advance ground in the cam. That means a cam with a LS of 114 will have an exhaust centerline of 120* and an intake centerline of 108*.
Eddie


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