540ci. Got questions
#11
Registered

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 11,332
Likes: 73
From: chicago
Sounds like a good build Kurt. I'd look into the Callies Compstar stuff as well. Really good quality for the $. You can easily hit your hp goal with the Dart's or AFR.
I did a very similar 540 combo in the spring for a whitewater Jet boat. It was lower compression so it would live on 87-89 octane, and had a very mild hyd roller from Bob Madara to ensure the valve train has a long life, Gen VI block. This combo could easily hit the 700hp mark with a couple minor changes.
540, AFR 305's, Holley HP EFI, Dana exhaust. Dyno'd fully dressed with wet exhaust.
I did a very similar 540 combo in the spring for a whitewater Jet boat. It was lower compression so it would live on 87-89 octane, and had a very mild hyd roller from Bob Madara to ensure the valve train has a long life, Gen VI block. This combo could easily hit the 700hp mark with a couple minor changes.
540, AFR 305's, Holley HP EFI, Dana exhaust. Dyno'd fully dressed with wet exhaust.
#12
I just read a lot of forums through google searching on heads and that seemed to be the common complaint about afr? But then again it's not fact just opinion. I'd be happy to use afr, dart or whatever gives me the most reliability. Any reason not to use dart heads?
#13
I have heard mixed things on afr's casting thickness. I know everyone says they flow great numbers from the box however I'd like this build to last a long time and darts pro1 heads look the better option in that respect. Not knocking afr, I really do think they are at the top of the tree with dart and brodix, just like some meat.
I DID find found 2 different post on 2 different forums where someone was claiming the were cast in china and thin, 2 totally different forums BUT the same guy posting, "LUKE FROM SA", I think this guy is very seriously misguided, there is NOTHING wrong wiith afr heads and they are built very well, Smitty
HERE IS A LINK TO THIS BS:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-afr-dart.html
"AFR will outflow a lot of other heads.
But.. Be aware that they are cast in China and finished machined in the USA. A BULLSHIIT LIE
They are are a thin head casting and not often seen on true race/high HP engines. EVEN WORSE BS LIE!
Very good bang for the buck.
I personaly believe that DART heads are a quality item, and made in the USA.
This would be my first choice.
I have had a few of each over the years.
I like the price of AFR but the long lasting quality of USA made DART heads.
You may notice that i'm from Australia.
I have done a lot of research BEFORE sending my $$ overseas.Tons of different heads out there for every budget.
Also cast and finished in many different countries. "
TOTAL BULLSHEET
#14
After reading your remark I did a search on Google to see what you are talking about, I searched "AFR heads thin casting" Out of 2 full pages I found several hits but when I opened the links they were NOT saying afr's were thin by any means, they were actually praising them for outperforming most other heads of equal port size.
I DID find found 2 different post on 2 different forums where someone was claiming the were cast in china and thin, 2 totally different forums BUT the same guy posting, "LUKE FROM SA", I think this guy is very seriously misguided, there is NOTHING wrong wiith afr heads and they are built very well, Smitty
HERE IS A LINK TO THIS BS:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-afr-dart.html
"AFR will outflow a lot of other heads.
But.. Be aware that they are cast in China and finished machined in the USA. A BULLSHIIT LIE
They are are a thin head casting and not often seen on true race/high HP engines. EVEN WORSE BS LIE!
Very good bang for the buck.
I personaly believe that DART heads are a quality item, and made in the USA.
This would be my first choice.
I have had a few of each over the years.
I like the price of AFR but the long lasting quality of USA made DART heads.
You may notice that i'm from Australia.
I have done a lot of research BEFORE sending my $$ overseas.Tons of different heads out there for every budget.
Also cast and finished in many different countries. "
TOTAL BULLSHEET
I DID find found 2 different post on 2 different forums where someone was claiming the were cast in china and thin, 2 totally different forums BUT the same guy posting, "LUKE FROM SA", I think this guy is very seriously misguided, there is NOTHING wrong wiith afr heads and they are built very well, Smitty
HERE IS A LINK TO THIS BS:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-afr-dart.html
"AFR will outflow a lot of other heads.
But.. Be aware that they are cast in China and finished machined in the USA. A BULLSHIIT LIE
They are are a thin head casting and not often seen on true race/high HP engines. EVEN WORSE BS LIE!
Very good bang for the buck.
I personaly believe that DART heads are a quality item, and made in the USA.
This would be my first choice.
I have had a few of each over the years.
I like the price of AFR but the long lasting quality of USA made DART heads.
You may notice that i'm from Australia.
I have done a lot of research BEFORE sending my $$ overseas.Tons of different heads out there for every budget.
Also cast and finished in many different countries. "
TOTAL BULLSHEET
#15
I have heard mixed things on afr's casting thickness. I know everyone says they flow great numbers from the box however I'd like this build to last a long time and darts pro1 heads look the better option in that respect. Not knocking afr, I really do think they are at the top of the tree with dart and brodix, just like some meat.
Edit: I have read about some Dart head bolt holes not lining up with the intake manifold and needed to be elongated or opened up. Later found out someone was selling blems... as new heads.
Last edited by Rookie; 12-03-2012 at 09:59 PM.
#16
Thread Starter
Registered
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
From: QLD
Sounds like a good build Kurt. I'd look into the Callies Compstar stuff as well. Really good quality for the $. You can easily hit your hp goal with the Dart's or AFR.
I did a very similar 540 combo in the spring for a whitewater Jet boat. It was lower compression so it would live on 87-89 octane, and had a very mild hyd roller from Bob Madara to ensure the valve train has a long life, Gen VI block. This combo could easily hit the 700hp mark with a couple minor changes.
540, AFR 305's, Holley HP EFI, Dana exhaust. Dyno'd fully dressed with wet exhaust.
I did a very similar 540 combo in the spring for a whitewater Jet boat. It was lower compression so it would live on 87-89 octane, and had a very mild hyd roller from Bob Madara to ensure the valve train has a long life, Gen VI block. This combo could easily hit the 700hp mark with a couple minor changes.
540, AFR 305's, Holley HP EFI, Dana exhaust. Dyno'd fully dressed with wet exhaust.
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
#17
Registered
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,181
Likes: 2
From: Vancouver BC
What cc piston did you use to get the 9:1 comp?
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
The heat exchanger is from SeaKamp
Last edited by HaxbySpeed; 12-06-2012 at 05:06 PM. Reason: Added info
#18
What cc piston did you use to get the 9:1 comp?
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
#19
Registered
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,181
Likes: 2
From: Vancouver BC
What cc piston did you use to get the 9:1 comp?
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
Lets say I ran same configuration as yours haxby but 9.5ish compression, what piston would give me this compression assuming I went the afr 305's?
Are any of the dressed head packages offered by manufacturers eg. Afr, dart, brodix any good or am I better off buying and assembling it all individually?
#20
Thread Starter
Registered
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
From: QLD
Hi Kurt, they were a flat top that poured about 3cc on the valve relief. The smallest dome on a shelf piston is usually 10 or 12cc. That'll put you 9.75 to 10ish depending on deck height, gasket, etc. If you plan on running low octane then I'd leave it around 9:1 to be safe. The half point probably isn't worth the risk for the very small amount of power it might be worth.
I definitely don't want to run anything other than pump gas. Like I said before the best we have here is premium 98, which is the same as your 93. I'll stick with a flat top piston
I had a look at the seakamp heat exchangers online. It says the kit is rated to 500cid, how does it go on the 540 with long periods at speed?
Thanks again for the input.




