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Old 05-25-2015 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Whos to say the guide clearance wasnt simply too tight , from a quality control standpoint ? Without physically checking it, you're taking someone's word for it.

While it certainly may or may not be the root cause of the failure, I certainly wouldn't write "improper guide clearance " off as a possibility, because someone else ran Afr heads with no issues. They need to be checked imo plain and simple, as well as the valve jobs.

Exact reason why Id rather buy my heads bare, and have my machine shop assemble them.
I am heating up a valve in oven right now, 400 degrees and gonna see if it fits in guide stay tuned... Btw the lifter will not come out of the bore so one of 2 things happened...
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Old 05-25-2015 | 04:55 PM
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Crap blew into intake and went I to each cylinder there is stuff all over
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Old 05-25-2015 | 04:57 PM
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How was I detonating with 12.2:1 and 32 degrees timing, i don't see detonation here
Anybody can look at the top of that piston and see detonation. You have carbon in the center and shiny all around the outside of the piston I highly doubt this was such a detailed build that you manage to push all the fuel to the center of the piston and ignite it. It's detonation see it all the time there are many reasons it happens timing is one of them...
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
Crap blew into intake and went I to each cylinder there is stuff all over
That's normal a lot of times it ruins the carburetor also.
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:03 PM
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Tim so sorry to hear about your issues.

NONE of us deserve this to happen

Let's hope OSO can constructively help give ideas and pointers instead of 100% confidently diagnose an engine issue through a picture! Lol
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:04 PM
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]541411[/ATTACH]not bad timing at all....

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Anybody can look at the top of that piston and see detonation. You have carbon in the center and shiny all around the outside of the piston I highly doubt this was such a detailed build that you manage to push all the fuel to the center of the piston and ignite it. It's detonation see it all the time there are many reasons it happens timing is one of them...
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:06 PM
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BTW my new AFR heads valve guides are getting honed as we speak.........glad I spoke with more then one professional to help steer me in the correct direction.
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
[ATTACH=CONFIG]541411[/ATTACH]not bad timing at all....
Tells nothing about the timing.
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:14 PM
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Just an idea Tim, but I know you had some intake sealing issues with these motors initially. What are the possibilities that you had an intake leak from the valley on that cylinder? You might not see it on the wideband if it is only one cylinder running lean. Are you running widebands on both banks or only one per motor? I really can't imagine a tight guide seizing the valve that quickly, and if it was tight guides I would imagine you would see the failure on an exhaust valve first.
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Old 05-25-2015 | 05:27 PM
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I take issue was fixed after first fire if engine no damage at all
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