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Old 06-01-2015 | 01:35 PM
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Its looking like a lot of guys may be realizing these heads aren't as bolt on and go as they thought .

We are getting different guide clearance numbers , guides with no lube, incorrect springs installed on them, and haven't even got into the valve jobs yet.

I think its a pretty safe bet, that you are better off buying these heads bare, and setting them up yourselves, or complete and then disassemble, check, and then bolt on.

There's no way I'd drop the dough on these heads and just bolt them on and hope for the best. Heck, even Tims spring mishap. That be real nice scenario if you're running a mild cam, and you don't even realize you have nearly 300lbs of seat pressure and 700+ open on your little 500hp 454 build.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 01:48 PM
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I can say this Bob M and AFR are taking care if my situation and in the engine world and as a small guy that means a ton to me. I will admit I wanted to hate but I can't all parties involved are making me a happy customer.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 01:49 PM
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Yes Joe in futire I will for sure buy every head bare and know theyvare set to what my guy does, I learned something too bad it had to be this way... Lol
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Old 06-01-2015 | 01:55 PM
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More and more one understands the price tag associated with custom builds from reputable builders. They just don't bolt together a bunch of parts out of box and have the engine on the dyno in 30 minutes like they do on Powerblock TV.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
More and more one understands the price tag associated with custom builds from reputable builders. They just don't bolt together a bunch of parts out of box and have the engine on the dyno in 30 minutes like they do on Powerblock TV.
I watch Horsepower TV for laughs. It's too bad it's in the morning and not evening, because then I would feel better about drinking beer watching it.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
I can say this Bob M and AFR are taking care if my situation and in the engine world and as a small guy that means a ton to me. I will admit I wanted to hate but I can't all parties involved are making me a happy customer.
Glad to hear that they are stepping up and helping you out. Looks like you might just get to enjoy the summer on the water after all.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Budman II
Glad to hear that they are stepping up and helping you out. Looks like you might just get to enjoy the summer on the water after all.
I will enjoy anyway even if it meant selling parts off and buying 420's I am not the type of boater to kiss a season... Won't happen
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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
Yeah I don't even think you get any lube with the $20,000 heads either. Actually if you think about it they might have to ship differently if they did....
Hmmm , here's your new crate engine , by the way it was assembled dry . BULLCHIT Nowhere does it state BEWARE : These heads are assembled dry . In my book there is no reasoning or excuse for this chit . If you want to assemble them that way fine but at least make it known . By the way assembly lube is not shipped in hazardous containers . I can't say BULLCHIT enough times .
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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:09 PM
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Were they all dry, or just some of them? When I ran my motor on the stand, I noticed what appeared to be oil coming out around several of the exhaust valves inside the ports. I was a little worried that I had a valve guide or seal leaking, so i asked AFR about it, and they said it appeared to be assembly lube leaking out. So I guess that at least means mine weren't assembled dry. Haven't looked at them since to see if there is any more evidence of oil, but I will be installing a new set of header gaskets pretty soon, so I'll have a look at them then.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Budman II
Were they all dry, or just some of them? When I ran my motor on the stand, I noticed what appeared to be oil coming out around several of the exhaust valves inside the ports. I was a little worried that I had a valve guide or seal leaking, so i asked AFR about it, and they said it appeared to be assembly lube leaking out. So I guess that at least means mine weren't assembled dry. Haven't looked at them since to see if there is any more evidence of oil, but I will be installing a new set of header gaskets pretty soon, so I'll have a look at them then.
Yes Bud , all were dry . Sounds like yours were assembled correctly . Somebodies azz needs fired .
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