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Old 06-01-2015 | 10:02 PM
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if the valve stem does not get lubed it will fail!
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Old 06-01-2015 | 10:24 PM
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Mike , empty your PM box .
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Old 06-01-2015 | 10:54 PM
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Should have sent them to Jim Valako. You would have got the right springs, proper guide clearances , lubricated guides, and he could have improved the exhaust port while he had them.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 12:15 AM
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Some folks (I lied it was BB) got all butthurt when Valako said the AFR exhaust port could be improved. Seems like a moot point when they can`t get a couple sets of heads with the right springs put together.

Poor guy who got Tims head and is thinking hes got a solid roller spring package! ooooops!

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Old 06-02-2015 | 04:46 AM
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]541762[/ATTACH]
Originally Posted by ealesh33
Blue stripe wouldn't be correct, the pac spring is a green stripe. We went through this when I got my afr's. My builder looked them up and he thought the stripe on my springs looked blue, which would have been a pioneer spring and he would have made me change. AFR discontinued use of the pioneer spring sometime late last year, when I talked to AFR he told me that there wasn't even a blue/black stripe spring (pioneer) in there facility when the order was placed for my heads, they were gone long before that. I placed that phone call to get it all straight to assure my builder, and had them send me pics of the pioneer spring with the blue/black stripe to confirm. The pac spring has a green stripe on them, if it has a blue/black stripe it is a pioneer spring.
Actually it is green.... Thought blue oops looking at pic a couple posts down that's what I got is geeen
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Old 06-02-2015 | 04:52 AM
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Old 06-02-2015 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
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Actually it is green.... Thought blue oops looking at pic a couple posts down that's what I got is geeen
Well, FWIW, this is what Jegs lists as the specs for the green stripe AFR springs. It lists a spring rate of 645 lb/in - does that sound right? Take it for what it's worth, I would verify your spring rates with a spring tester. It doesn't say if this is the PAC spring, so it might be something different.

http://www.jegs.com/i/AFR-Airflow-Re...ductId=1630809
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Old 06-02-2015 | 07:06 AM
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BTW, have you verified that you have the inconel exhaust valves? At this point, I would be verifying everything about those heads.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman II
Well, FWIW, this is what Jegs lists as the specs for the green stripe AFR springs. It lists a spring rate of 645 lb/in - does that sound right? Take it for what it's worth, I would verify your spring rates with a spring tester. It doesn't say if this is the PAC spring, so it might be something different.

http://www.jegs.com/i/AFR-Airflow-Re...ductId=1630809
We verified rates and theyvare good, I don't have paper on me with what we saw I wanna say 175 seat and 520 at my lift if memory serves me... Not sure though it's written down
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Old 06-02-2015 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman II
BTW, have you verified that you have the inconel exhaust valves? At this point, I would be verifying everything about those heads.
Yes valve part numbers are inconel
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