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Old 11-16-2015 | 08:53 PM
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So, the 310's should work good on Dales 540's if he goes that route it seems... lol
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Old 11-16-2015 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Zone 5
No kidding. but I was told to get dry pipes. I'm showing why it doesn't work here.
You obviously dont understand that dry jacketed tails , can be muffled in many ways.

Lets move on, you failed this course. Should we try something more simple for you?

Heres one. What colors are navigation lights ? Red and green, or orange and blue ?
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Old 11-16-2015 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
You obviously dont understand that dry jacketed tails , can be muffled in many ways.

Lets move on, you failed this course. Should we try something more simple for you?

Heres one. What colors are navigation lights ? Red and green, or orange and blue ?
Sorry, I understand them perfectly. Dry pipes are not ever going to make only 90dB.

but hey, you don't get it so now you want me to explain nav lights to you. BTW, you missed one of them, so the answer is none of the above
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Old 11-16-2015 | 11:37 PM
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[QUOTE=MILD THUNDER;4376477]
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Lol, the only garbage is that formula with all the junk used parts you have purchased. Funny, you were real happy at the time to get a pair of used hydraulic roller cams, and hydraulic roller lifters for pennies on the dollar, because you couldnt afford to buy proper new stuff.

Oh, and those reed cams youre talking about, came from your west michigan buddys... kaaama mark, then to dave ritter, and made 700hp in some 509s with a 250 blower, and some stock iron merlin heads, and ran for many years ...i gave them to you for 75 dollars per cam, and 150 dollars for a set of good used hyd roller lifters ....75 bucks for a roller cam! And you got the nerve to come on here and say i sold you garbage...lmao!

So, lets see, you had those cams in some stock 420hp 454s (which anyone would know is a decent upgrade over the stock flat tappet), and now replaced them, with some bob cams, and afr heads, raised compression, and are bragging about how you gained 4mph by getting rif of those "garbage" reed hydraulic rollers?? How much did that cost ya to gain 4mph
Lets see here Joe- Seeing that you know what parts are in my builds please list the parts? Please list what parts are junk, what are used and what is new? The only person on this site that know's anything about my builds other than me is Getrdunn, as all the work was done in his shop last winter.

As to the Reeds cams you sold me- Yup they were junk- They made no more power than a 454 mag. Do you remember when you were selling me those wonder cams that you also tried to sell me a set of Weiand x-celerator intakes? LOL- I sure do and I told you no thanks because they were worse than the RPM intakes I was using! Also- I think you are a bit mistaken as to what I paid you for those cams and it sure wasn't $75 each, but that wouldn't be a good story if you posted the real price. As to the lifters- I never bought any lifters from you, I bought some lifters from Tkach that were supposed to be Morels. I think I paid closer to $300 for them and come to find out they weren't Morels but most likely Cranes. I sold them and never installed them in my engines, and I ended up buying new Morels.

Now you claim I have Bob's cams, AFR heads, and raised the compression in my engine. You are a crazy dude, where do you pull your info from? What part of all things being equal other than cams do you not understand? I replaced the Reed cams with a NEW- not USED pair of 741 cams. Compression is the same, pistons the same, carb the same, exhaust the same, everything is the same! With that change and that change alone I gained 4 mph at the cost of $650.00. And yes- boat idles just fine at 700 rpms. Oh- hold on- I did replace the timing chains so maybe I picked up 1 mph there!

As for me not affording new cams when I bought the Reed cams, sure that was true at the time- I was working on my masters degree and money was tight, so what! IMO, spending money on my education is a little more wise than spending money on my boat!

Thanks for calling my Formula junk, which it isn't- At least I didn't take vinyl spray paint and paint my seats because I couldn't afford to have my seats upholstered. All the vinyl in my boat is new and was purchased from McLeod, it's about as good as it gets, certainly better than a can of spray paint! I also believe you are running heads that were bought second hand, as well as those mighty blowers you bought second hand. I'm sure a lot of your boats bling parts are second hand parts. So before you start slamming people for buying something used, you better look in the mirror! I find it rather interesting that you slam people for doing for the same things as you have done/do. There is nothing wrong with saving a buck or two, but I guess now you are too cool to admit you too buy used parts!

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Old 11-17-2015 | 05:40 AM
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As to the Reeds cams you sold me- Yup they were junk- They made no more power than a 454 mag. Do you remember when you were selling me those wonder cams that you also tried to sell me a set of Weiand x-celerator intakes? LOL- I sure do and I told you no thanks because they were worse than the RPM intakes I was using! Also- I think you are a bit mistaken as to what I paid you for those cams and it sure wasn't $75 each, but that wouldn't be a good story if you posted the real price. As to the lifters- I never bought any lifters from you, I bought some lifters from Tkach that were supposed to be Morels. I think I paid closer to $300 for them and come to find out they weren't Morels but most likely Cranes. I sold them and never installed them in my engines, and I ended up buying new Morels.
You still wanna keep making up lies? Do I have to dig up the paypal invoice and shipping info too?

Oh you had RPM intakes? You told me YOU wanted weiand intakes to replace your stock mag intakes, and I simply said a buddy had a pair for sale!!!!! Another oso liar.
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Old 11-17-2015 | 06:35 AM
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Sure sucks to have proof when people try to make you look bad..... I love when people lie and the other person has proof....
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Old 11-17-2015 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Griff
Did these people appoint you to defend them????

They all seem to know how to post in a professional manner themselves if they choose to.
I highly doubt they would be any less professional.
Are you a moderator on this site ? If so do your job and stop the BS caused by these few that keep stirring the pot for reactions (same 4-5 that you stick up for) and I will not have to jump in..........SIMPLE ENOUGH!!!!!!

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Old 11-17-2015 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
Sure sucks to have proof when people try to make you look bad..... I love when people lie and the other person has proof....

Yea, did you know the scorpions are better than the crane rockers ? Hmm

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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
About the same as me changing a few things to find 30-40 hp that in the end won't make much if any difference in speed... I very well know engine builder here told me to stick with my combo even though I am not too happy because te cost to change certain things at this point are not worth the gains..
This is a good point. With a car, 20hp is a significant, seat of the pants gain but in most marine apps., especially these big multi engine boats, 20, 30, even 40hp really isn't going to set the world on fire. Making a 20hp difference is usually fairly easy on most mild builds but trying to get 50+ with our example; a ~700hp pump gas 540 living in the <6000 rpm range pretty much isn't going to happen without a blower or more compression and even then, you're still going to need to increase rpm to the max of whatever your combination will allow.

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Now lets assume I was able to change some parts. How much of a difference would it make powerwise to optimize everything based on 305s vs say 315- 320- 335?
I don't care what heads, intake or cam you try to use...you simply can not force more air/fuel into the engine than it's going to take on it's own but for one exception and that's with a tunnel ram and two carbs. Tuned, equal runner lengths, a common plenum and the charge inertia factor will make more power because of increased VE. That's about the only "bolt on" improvement that will make any significant power increase without changing compression, displacement or rpm. Bigger heads will only slow down the airspeed through the port and that will hurt VE (cylinder filling) which is what makes power. More cam might make a little more peak power but not enough to be worth while and will hurt the average below peak and for these big boats that's not necessarily a good thing.

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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
Only so he can brag about his boat....AND efi....
Lets see Tim you have over 7000 posts and 6999 of them are about YOUR 2 boats that have so many failures by your own hands over the past 5 or so years I can't even keep track of them. Now that you have got 1 of them to run for 10 hours you are all about giving advise................BRAVO YOUR THE BEST.............I will PM you later about a new build we are working on so you can teach me the right way.
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